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Canada considers loosening call-in rules Bill says just passing through? Don't have to call in to report.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

If we are confused I'm sure some officers are too!
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Posted 08 February 2017 - 10:36 AM

Remember when it used to be easy? Not that long ago I wouldn't give it a second thought before heading up the Basset and dropping anchor without even calling in. Now that was a nice way to spend the afternoon... Posted Image

I just started visiting Seaway over the past last two years without worrying so much but even so, I am much more careful now on where I drop anchor. I hope they make it easier to simply head over for an afternoon and "float" without having to call in.
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:34 AM

Was at the Boat Show on Monday. Stopped by the RCMP (Canadian) booth and asked the question, "Do I need to report (call) in if I am just cruising up the lake or river with no intention of "landing"?" (i.e. in transit or just weaving in and out of Canadian water)

The answer was a resounding "YES." As one officer said, "If you merely step across the line, whether on land or sea, you are required to report."

Just reporting what I was told by two officers at the Boat Show.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:38 AM

View PostProfessor, on 17 February 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:

Was at the Boat Show on Monday. Stopped by the RCMP (Canadian) booth and asked the question, "Do I need to report (call) in if I am just cruising up the lake or river with no intention of "landing"?" (i.e. in transit or just weaving in and out of Canadian water)

The answer was a resounding "YES." As one officer said, "If you merely step across the line, whether on land or sea, you are required to report."

Just reporting what I was told by two officers at the Boat Show.




Totally conflicts what the CBP has been saying for years that you don't have to call in when going from US port to US port. Nothing like consistency between the agencies. Posted Image



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:03 PM

View PostStodge, on 17 February 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostProfessor, on 17 February 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:

Was at the Boat Show on Monday. Stopped by the RCMP (Canadian) booth and asked the question, "Do I need to report (call) in if I am just cruising up the lake or river with no intention of "landing"?" (i.e. in transit or just weaving in and out of Canadian water)

The answer was a resounding "YES." As one officer said, "If you merely step across the line, whether on land or sea, you are required to report."

Just reporting what I was told by two officers at the Boat Show.




Totally conflicts what the CBP has been saying for years that you don't have to call in when going from US port to US port. Nothing like consistency between the agencies. Posted Image


You were always required to call in, but this doesn't not count as "entering" the country. It's more like a "required courtesy informational call". I don't know the official description of this call vs the call you make when you are actually "entering" the country though.

I still say resurrect John Candy and send him and Rhea Perlman across and take Ontario over and make it the 51st state! Then we have the whole lake and both rivers to wander around in!!
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:28 PM

I agree that it's confusing.

Probably, if you asked two other 0fficers, you'd get a different opinion.

Given what I've been reading and hearing about border security and immigration on both the Southern and Northern borders,
I'd err on the side of [extreme] caution.

The whole issue of (immigration and enforcement) is in the courts, including SCOTUS. Outcome(s) to be determined.

It will be interesting to see what the Coasties and Border guys have to say (do) this Spring and Summer.
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 10:48 AM

Doesn't make any sense. They would be inundated with phone calls not to mention it would be impossible to call some of the time. Boat traffic gets pretty congested on the weekends in the river. You could be forced into Canadian waters by a freighter or many boats coming the opposite way. As your trying to keep the boat from getting pounded by wakes and weaving between boats, your supposed to grab your phone and call them if your in their water for 5 minutes?
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 11:15 AM

Stopped boating & fishing in CA many years ago.....just not worth the all of the aggravation, subjective rules & regulations changed daily!
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 03:57 PM

the Canadian and American customs agents and coast guard at the boat show told me that no changes from last year
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 05:35 PM

There haven't been changes in many years, just different interpretations of people reading the rules or depending on heresay.

The links that RP posted starting this thread are new changes that could happen and make it easier for some folks, IF those proposals gets enacted.
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:11 PM

Remember, if you cross the line into Canada and "report" (call in) you have officially left the US. When you return to the US side, you have to report to US Customs.

It is entirely possible that the two agencies "talk" to one another and know who's in and who's out. Not sure on this one, but don't want to be the test case, either.

And, as has been said before in this post, it is up to the individual officer to apply his/her interpretations of the regulations.

Best to err on the side of caution.
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 08:08 PM

View PostProfessor, on 20 February 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Remember, if you cross the line into Canada and "report" (call in) you have officially left the US. When you return to the US side, you have to report to US Customs.


THIS IS NOT CORRECT!!

You haven't left the USA unless you "land" in Canada, which means arrive at a port, anchor or meet another vessel. Just calling into their number and informing them you've crossed the centerline DOES NOT mean you've "landed" in Canada, and DHS is pretty clear on that.
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