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22 January 2014 - 02:38 PM"Exactly who would be a "someone of some importance" who decides which Federal laws to enforce or not enforce?
Maybe local law enforcement should take a safe boating course. A lot of these rules have been around for years and it ain't rocket science.
Why someone would choose to not carry flares in these waters, or why an officer wouldn't know these basic requirements is beyond me and in my opinion somewhat troublesome. I would think enforcing the law would imply the simple requirement to actually know the law. "Someone of some importance" should make that happen or be required to find another job.
Someone of some importance would be, say, the prosecutor who considers all sorts of variables when deciding which violations their office will process. It also could be a Chief who considers all sorts of variables when deciding which violations their people will enforce. It is a common occurrence due to the fact that agencies are tasked with doing more with less. It is kind of like discretion. I could write you a speeding ticket for doing 1 MPH over the speed limit, but you would undoubtedly cause me more headache that it is worth, so I chose to wait till you get to say 5, 7 or 10 MPH over the speed limit before interfering in a citizen's busy day.
Anyway, I was speculating as to why this rumor is circulating. What I can tell you definitively is that there is no state law that says you must have Visual Distress Signals.
FOLLOW UP: I just called the USCG and they said that flares are not required on LSC under federal law. I guess we all had it wrong Canaller. Either way, we don't enforce federal law so it is out of our jurisdiction.
But, like Chili said, finding a burning red flare is easier than finding a small white boat, especially in the dark. So carry them!
22 January 2014 - 09:26 AMHi MCSO Marine Division,
"On this lake, unlike the inland lakes, you're required to carry flares"
I've been told by the Coast Guard & St Clair Sheriffs that flares were not necessary on lake St Clair. Due to never being out of sight of the shoreline.
I'm not trying to stir things up & I carry flares anyway but there's conflicting opinions on this one.
We've heard the same conflicting information, though not directly from any official source on the matter. There is no state law requiring flares, so that may explain why a deputy sheriff would say they are not required. If someone from the USCG told you they are not required, I would suspect that locally, someone of some importance decided that they would not strictly enforce the regulation.
Regardless, I wouldn't go out on LSC without them.
21 January 2014 - 03:11 PMAhoy all, I'm new here but I figure this is a site that my wife and I can get plenty of info from. Without having to scroll through various topics and threads, can anyone direct me to general lake info? I.E. best boating, best on the hook, what's need for Canadian waters/ports ( are passports enough ?), areas to avoid ( too shallow etc ) and how well patrolled is the lake ( not that we aren't responsible boaters )
We like to think the lake is very well patrolled. Between us, St Clair County and Wayne County, there are always a few of us around. On the weekends, more than a few. Throw in the Coast Guard and Border Patrol and you'll see lots of us. Cross the border and you'll see our Canadian counterparts.
Our department does write tickets and makes arrests but, typically, the number of search and rescue calls we go to outnumber the amount of tickets that we write.
If you haven't attended a Boater Safety course, we strongly recommend that you do. One of the biggest problems that we see are people that do not know the rules of the road. Lake St Clair is a busy lake and we respond to many accidents. You'll want to be sure you know what you're doing.
We also recommend that you have a marine VHF radio on board for emergencies (or for hailing other LSC.net users). On this lake, unlike the inland lakes, you're required to carry flares.
So, we're here, but we're friendly. People are always welcome to stop by the boathouse if they have questions or just to say hello. Or, when you see us on the water, feel free to wave us over for the same reasons.
Welcome to the neighborhood. We hope you have a fun and safe season.
30 September 2013 - 10:03 AMI was at Poor Man's diving in shallow water where absolulty NO boats were on Saturday. I heard a boat and came up to a dingy that came within FIVE foot of my head at FULL SPEED. I could actually touch the propeller path. I yelled at them and they slowed down. I was SOOOO mad and shaking I swore at them and I DON'T SWEAR. He said he was sorry BUT I still yelled at them. I told him he shouldn't be opperating a boat. He threatened to come back and run me over and I was HOPING they would try. I couldn't go back under and watched them go into Mac Ray's. I finally got the nerve to go under but didn't stay long I was shaking too much. We got back to our boat and some VERY nice boater left a note (THANK YOU) The note said
2 Male's Dingy MC 3102 SZ Drinking beer (BOTH) No life jackets Green sticker 15
I SURE wish someone would have called the sheriff. I can't dive with a cell phone and wouldn't want to.
The incident, as you described it, seems to rise to the level of a crime. If you wish to pursue the matter, please call us at the Marine Division, 586-469-5803. The best time to talk to someone at the boathouse is Monday through Friday, 8am until 4pm. If we're on patrol and no one is at the boathouse, the call is usually answered by the Sheriff's dispatch center and they can leave a message for us. Or you can email me your name and number and I'll call you (firstname.lastname@example.org).
01 September 2013 - 08:24 PMWasn't us!