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There's a center console on Groesbeck just south of Hall, it's got twin Honda 90's (4 strokes)... the trailer plate is from Fla. Boat and trailer look ok, Honda's look relatively new - he was asking $30k, now says $25k obo. I thought at first that was way too much, boat's really dirty on the bottom, props are somewhat worn, but I looked up the Honda's and they're like $9k new.

Just wondered if anyone else saw it - can't tell the make of the boat - are the twin 90's enough for that size boat?
 

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What size hull? Typically, most CC hulls I see that are rigged for twins are 23ft and up. 180hp is not that bad if its a 23ft. If its a 26' +, yeah, thats fairly weak for my blood. I have to have something that can at least do 50mph with two in the boat.
 

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If it is like 90% of boats on the water rigged with outboards, the boat is underpowered. With twin 90s unless it is a 20 foot boat, it is underpowered IMO. However I am sure it will plane and move well enough such that if you like the rig and it is priced right, it would be just fine.
 

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QUOTEIf it is like 90% of boats on the water rigged with outboards, the boat is underpowered.

Amen. I can never understand some of these larger boats and all they have is a 125 or 150hp outboard. They cant probably even break 30-35mph WOT. My boat came standard with a 150 XR Merc...I opted for the 225 Optimax. I couldnt imagine my boat with a 150 on it. The fun factor of the 225merc was worth the extra 25/mo it added to the payment.
 

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QUOTE(Nitro225Optimax @ Jul 25 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTEIf it is like 90% of boats on the water rigged with outboards, the boat is underpowered.

Amen. I can never understand some of these larger boats and all they have is a 125 or 150hp outboard. They cant probably even break 30-35mph WOT. My boat came standard with a 150 XR Merc...I opted for the 225 Optimax. I couldnt imagine my boat with a 150 on it. The fun factor of the 225merc was worth the extra 25/mo it added to the payment.


We have a Yamaha 150 outboard on our 21fter. We top out about 35MPH. That is fast enough for me on that damn thing. If it hits waves just right let just say if there is a local bull riding contest I think im signing up
. If there is any kind of wind on the water I wear my rain gear or im soaked by the time we get somewhere.
If the water is glassy its fine but even going 35 mph the wind sucks if your sitting in front and dont open your mouth for any reason
. If your driving or sitting behind the windsheild your fine.
I cant really complain for what we paid for it but our boat definatly wasnt built for speed.
 

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QUOTE(Chefnutz @ Jul 26 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I noticed a duck hunting rig by the industrial complexes before Micheals kitchen


Being an ex marine I thought that was for a amphibious landing.
 

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QUOTE(superman @ Jul 25 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There's a center console on Groesbeck just south of Hall, it's got twin Honda 90's (4 strokes)... the trailer plate is from Fla. Boat and trailer look ok, Honda's look relatively new - he was asking $30k, now says $25k obo. I thought at first that was way too much, boat's really dirty on the bottom, props are somewhat worn, but I looked up the Honda's and they're like $9k new.

Just wondered if anyone else saw it - can't tell the make of the boat - are the twin 90's enough for that size boat?

Just trying to keep up with you superman.
 

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QUOTEWe have a Yamaha 150 outboard on our 21fter. We top out about 35MPH. That is fast enough for me on that damn thing. If it hits waves just right let just say if there is a local bull riding contest I think im signing up
. If there is any kind of wind on the water I wear my rain gear or im soaked by the time we get somewhere.
If the water is glassy its fine but even going 35 mph the wind sucks if your sitting in front and dont open your mouth for any reason
. If your driving or sitting behind the windsheild your fine.
I cant really complain for what we paid for it but our boat definatly wasnt built for speed.

I understand what you mean and where you are coming from. I cant go more than 25-30mph myself in my Nitro most of the time I have have it on LSC because of the waves/boat wakes etc. So my 70+mph doesnt mean anything anyways. I guess what I am trying to convey is more from a power standpoint. My dads boat and my boat are perfect examples. He has a 21ft deck boat with a 4.3L V6 in it (190hp) and with two people its fine. It tops out at 40-45ish. Now throw 4 more in the boat and it takes forever to plane, its a deck boat for crying out loud, its meant to carry 6 people. You cant even get it to plane without moving 2-3 people up front sometimes no matter what the trim is (and yes, he even took it to get it looked at thinking something was wrong with it)...and towing tubers with that many people? Forget it, its not even fun. That boat should have had a 5.0L V8 at minimum. I told him he should have sprung for the 5.7L V8, but it was his decision. He regrets it now and throws a fit every time he has more than 4 people in the boat and I suspect he will sell it sooner than later. It rides nice though with two people in it and its a good looking boat. I can throw 5-6 adults in my (I've had 7) Nitro and it will plane very quickly still without much effort. It will also pull up a wakeboarder or tubers with no effort as well. I owned an 18ft Astro Fish and Ski with a 115hp merc on it before the Nitro and I had similar issues, it wouldnt plane well with four or more in it either. It was my first boat so I learned a lot from owning it.
 

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I checked out the duck boat between 16 and 15 on groesbeck. $2200 is a bit steep for that package, I feel I could get more for the $$ right now, I don't think that fella wants to really get rid of it yet. Not worth the coin.
 

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QUOTE(superman @ Jul 25 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There's a center console on Groesbeck just south of Hall, it's got twin Honda 90's (4 strokes)... the trailer plate is from Fla. Boat and trailer look ok, Honda's look relatively new - he was asking $30k, now says $25k obo. I thought at first that was way too much, boat's really dirty on the bottom, props are somewhat worn, but I looked up the Honda's and they're like $9k new.

Just wondered if anyone else saw it - can't tell the make of the boat - are the twin 90's enough for that size boat?

Beyond the undersize issue, Motors from SALTWATER, Be carefull I'd drop one of the lower units and pull a thermosat and check for corrosion.
 

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QUOTE(Nitro225Optimax @ Jul 26 2009, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He has a 21ft deck boat with a 4.3L V6 in it (190hp) and with two people its fine. It tops out at 40-45ish. Now throw 4 more in the boat and it takes forever to plane, its a deck boat for crying out loud, its meant to carry 6 people. You cant even get it to plane without moving 2-3 people up front sometimes no matter what the trim is (and yes, he even took it to get it looked at thinking something was wrong with it)...and towing tubers with that many people? Forget it, its not even fun. That boat should have had a 5.0L V8 at minimum.

I guess they're all a bit different - a few weeks ago I was on Harsen's with some friends... my buddy had his dad's 21ft deck boat with the same V6 - 6 adults and 3 kids and it got on plane like a rocket (granted some people were up front), and pulled me and my daughter on a tube, then another guy got up on two skis no problem.

And Angler's Point - thanks for the saltwater advice, I had heard that from someone else also


I was really just curious about the boat and the power and the price - I'm not actually looking at buying it. I appreciate all the input from everyone
 

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QUOTEI guess they're all a bit different - a few weeks ago I was on Harsen's with some friends... my buddy had his dad's 21ft deck boat with the same V6 - 6 adults and 3 kids and it got on plane like a rocket (granted some people were up front), and pulled me and my daughter on a tube, then another guy got up on two skis no problem.

Thats good. It would be interesting to know the weight differences of the hulls. There could be as much as 500lbs difference or more between the two boats depending on options, construction, hull thickness, etc. Prop pitch might have a lot to do with it too. Either way, his boat with 2 people in it wont plane as fast as mine with 5. Even though I technically only have 35hp more, my boat probably weighs 1,000lbs less than his. Its all weight vs power game just like cars. My truck has 550hp but only runs a 13.1 in the quarter. Put that same 550hp 6.0L in a 3000lb car and it would run 10's all day. Same thing with boats. 190hp in one boat might be sufficient while in another, it would be under powered. I'm just a firm believer that you can never have too much power, but you can definetly not have enough sometimes.
 
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