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I want to get some good products on order to do a deep cleaning on my canvas.

What I was thinking so far was some of the three step Novus product to remove light scratches from the isinglass

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and some 303 protect ant for the canvas.

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What do others use for cleaning and protecting the canvas and what do people use on the isinglass?

And now that my mind is on cleaning and protecting what is everyones favorite supplies for other difficult areas like non skid deck, white rub rail, dinghy material, etc...???
 

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Woody Wax for the non skid surfaces, stainless fixtures and rail. Not cheap but a little goes a long way.
Best non-skid/horizontal surface wax/protectant I've used.
Really slippery during application so be careful, rinse well and it gets a little "grippy" to the bare feet and most stains will wash right off.
Waiting for a report from AP to see how he likes it, I think he's giving it a try this year.


Gotta get some Plexus for the glass, still using 303 for the canvas.
303 is a little cheaper at Murrays/Autozone than West.

Had a greezy dried bird stain on the 303'd canvas and got it out completely using a handheld steamer and a brush.
 

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We bought some canvas protectant from Andre Friday night at the open house.

Washed the bimini top and mooring cover today. Will try it out as soon as the canvas is dry.
 

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Ok, a little confused...Should I buy the 303 protectant or the 303 fabric guard for the canvas?

After some reading I think the protectant would be for vinyl and isenglass and the fabric guard is for the canvas...
 

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the novus works great on isenglass. Takes out light scratches and brown spots from stainless bars. Before I got me new canvass (strataglass this time) I actually used a wheel on very low speed and did the windows with it.
 

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QUOTE(TwinFins @ Mar 7 2010, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ok, a little confused...Should I buy the 303 protectant or the 303 fabric guard for the canvas?

After some reading I think the protectant would be for vinyl and isenglass and the fabric guard is for the canvas...

It's the green one. Think that is the fabric guard.
 

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303 protectant isnt for fabric. I think first you want to use their fabric/vinyl cleaner, then use the green bottle fabric guard to re-waterproof.

Our canvas was leaking like crazy. I used the fabric guard and it was amazing how well it worked. I didnt do the light coats like the bottle says. I rolled it on with a paint roller and completely soaked the fabric. Turned out great.
 

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QUOTE(gradytom @ Mar 7 2010, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Gotta get some Plexus for the glass, still using 303 for the canvas.
303 is a little cheaper at Murrays/Autozone than West.
Amazon.com has gallons of 303 waterproofer for $65+$10 for shipping. West has it for around $95/gal.
 

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Last year I tried the Starbrite water proofer on my 14 year old canvas. It worked great.

So I recommend the 303 product to my customers because it is what Sunbrella recommends but if you are on a budget the Starbrite stuff is a good substitute.

Matt
 

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I think I'll use the plexus for the isenglass with meguiars plastic scratch remover as a backup to any deeper scrathces..

For the canvas itself I plan to use the 303 fabric guard for protection, but what about washing the canvas? Ive read everything from simple green and bleach to laundry machine with laundry detergent...Im thinking some boat soap solution with a soft brush is what Im leaning towards.
 

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QUOTE(TwinFins @ Mar 8 2010, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think I'll use the plexus for the isenglass with meguiars plastic scratch remover as a backup to any deeper scrathces..

For the canvas itself I plan to use the 303 fabric guard for protection, but what about washing the canvas? Ive read everything from simple green and bleach to laundry machine with laundry detergent...Im thinking some boat soap solution with a soft brush is what Im leaning towards.

Here is the recommendation from Sunbrella.

I use these instructions on all canvas manufacturers. If it's not Sunbrella and you decide to use the bleach method test first and let the top dry completely before continuing.

I have cleaned some pretty far gone stuff with these instructions with great success.

Matt

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Marine tops and covers care & cleaning

One of the best ways to keep Sunbrella® brand fabrics looking good and to delay deep or vigorous cleanings is to properly maintain the fabrics. This can be accomplished by simply brushing off dirt before it becomes embedded in the fabrics, wiping up spills as soon as they occur or spot cleaning soon after stains occur.

Marine tops and covers care & cleaning (pdf) / Stain chart

When it's time for a thorough cleaning, Sunbrella fabrics can be cleaned while still on a boat or, size permitting, they can be removed for cleaning in a washing machine or dockside. When cleaning Sunbrella fabrics, it is important to observe the following:

* Always use a mild soap such as Ivory Snow, Dreft or Woolite.
* Water should be cold to lukewarm (Never more than 100°F/38°C.)
* Rinse thoroughly to remove all soap residue.
* Air dry only. Never apply heat to Sunbrella fabrics.

General or light cleaning

To clean Sunbrella while still on a boat, follow these simple steps:

* Brush off loose dirt.
* Hose down.
* Prepare a cleaning solution of water and mild soap such as Ivory Snow, Dreft or Woolite (no detergents).
* Use a soft bristle brush to clean.
* Allow cleaning solution to soak into the fabric.
* Rinse thoroughly until all soap residue is removed.
* Air dry.
* May not require re-treatment depending on the age of the fabric.

If stubborn stains persist, you can use a diluted chlorine bleach/soap mixture for spot cleaning of mildew, roof run-off or other similar stains (see our Stain Chart for specific recommendations).
Heavy cleaning for stubborn stains and mildew

Sunbrella fabric does not promote mildew growth, however, mildew may grow on dirt and other foreign substances that are not removed from the fabric. To clean mildew, or other stubborn stains:

* Eight ounces (one cup) of chlorine bleach.
* Two ounces (1/4 cup) of mild soap and/or detergent.
* One gallon of water.
* Clean with soft bristle brush.
* Allow mixture to soak into the fabric for up to 15 minutes.
* Rinse thoroughly until all soap residue is removed.
* Air dry.
* Repeat if necessary.
* Re-treatment of fabric for water and stain resistance will be necessary.

Remember to protect the area around your Sunbrella fabric if using a bleach solution. Carpet or other fabrics that are not Sunbrella may have an adverse reaction to the bleach. If a boat cover is suitable in size for a washing machine, these steps should be followed:

* Use mild soap and/or detergent.
* For heavier stains add 1 cup of bleach to wash.
* Wash and rinse in cold water.
* Air dry. Never apply heat to Sunbrella.
* Re-treatment for water and stain resistance will be necessary after machine washing.

Re-treating the fabric

As part of the finishing process, Sunbrella fabrics are treated with a fluorocarbon finish, which enhances water repellency. This finish is designed to last for several years, but must be replenished after a thorough cleaning. Based on test results,
Glen Raven recommends 303 High Tech Fabric Guard™ as the preferred re-treatment product for Sunbrella fabrics. Fabrics should be re-treated after thorough cleaning or after five years of use.

For more information on re-treatment products, please visit www.303products.com.

* Synthetic fabric heat settings normally do not exceed 150°F/66°C.
Applying 303 High Tech Fabric Guard

303 should be applied to Sunbrella fabrics after each thorough cleaning, which typically removes the original finish and reduces the fabric's water repellency.

* Clean Sunbrella fabric, using one of the cleaning methods.
* Allow Sunbrella to completely air dry.
* Apply 303 Fabric Guard in a well ventilated area following instructions on the container.
* Apply 303 in a thin, even coat and allow fabric to dry completely.
* Apply a second thin, even coating of 303. (Two light coatings are more effective in restoring fabric water resistance than a single heavy coating. A 15-ounce bottle provides coverage of up to 50 square feet of fabric.)

For more information, please visit www.303products.com.
Professional cleaners

You may have access to professional cleaning firms. In evaluating the services of a professional firm, you should inquire about a firm's experience in working with Sunbrella fabrics and knowledge of cleaning and re-treatment requirements. DO NOT dry clean Sunbrella fabrics.
Helpful hints

Protect the area around the Sunbrella fabric when using a bleach solution - bleach may discolor non-Sunbrella fabrics. Always rinse Sunbrella thoroughly to completely remove bleach.

Sunbrella air dries very quickly. Machine drying is not necessary.

If fabric has some wrinkling, use an iron, if necessary, but only on the synthetic* setting. As some irons exceed the recommended 100°F/38°C temperature on the synthetic setting, test a small inconspicuous area before ironing entire piece.

DO NOT use a steamer or iron set to steam setting.

Use of bleach and/or advanced age of the fabric application may impact the deterioration of the sewing thread and other non-Sunbrella components.
 

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I took ours to the laundrymat and washed them with Dreft, then took them home to dry hanging up in the back yard. Wanted them clean before waterproofing them.
 

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QUOTE(Stodge @ Mar 8 2010, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I took ours to the laundrymat and washed them with Dreft, then took them home to dry hanging up in the back yard. Wanted them clean before waterproofing them.

That works really well. I do that a lot.

If anyone else does this just remember not to use the dryer to dry it.

Matt
 

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I haven't had to scrub the canvas yet.. I bought it new a couple of seasons ago.. As for the Non-skid
surfaces I use the woody wax also... It is good stuff. Yes it is a little priceybut the can usually lasts the season.. Slipery before hoseing off so step carefully..
 
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