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OK, let's try this again - this thread is intended to provide a place to post observed incidents of poor seamanship. Please keep the editorializing to a minimum, "just the facts" is the intent. I've taken the liberty of extracting the applicable posts from the other thread and putting them over here.

Note that if *you* believe it counter-productive to post MC numbers, or boat names, or what have you, you certainly have the option *not* to do so.
 

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Boat name: The Fishwhacker
Boat type: Bass boat
Description: White with broad red stripe
MC #: MC123456
Location: Harley Ensign ramp
Behavior: Powerloading and cutting in line at the ramp, general incompetence. Guy cut in front of 3 other boats waiting to load, then sat in his truck smoking before he powerloaded onto his trailer.
Comments:
 

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QUOTE(sunsation98)I have three, and hate to say the one, but such is life. This was Wed. 6-24-2009 late afternoon

Boat name: N/A
Boat type: Sea Doo XP
Description: Yellow/Black in color
MC #: N/A
Location: Off the point of Blue Lagoon
Behavior: Non english speaking operator wearing an orange PFD and over weight with assz crack hanging out on said jetski, running well within 10 feet of me and my dog as we were swiming in 3' of water. Said operator coming from the south river launch, cruised by us multiple times. Used the boats in front of belle maer as a rece course to zig zag in and out. One guy did stop him and explained what he was doing wrong. Operator then proceeded to drive away doing the exact same thing.

Boat name: XRT
Boat type: Sunsation
Description: Black
MC #: N/A
Location: Mac Ray entrance
Behavior: Guessing 10 to 12 mph through the canal pass the gass dock and slowed down to make the westerly turn to head down the canal. Way to fast. So fast that the wake actually splashed over the bow of my inflatable. No excuses

Boat name: N/A
Boat type: Old Roamer maybe???? 40' maybe. Came from Blue lagoon
Description: White, with make shift/home made cockpit enclosure
MC #: N/A
Location: Mac Ray Main canal 1/2 way down
Behavior: Wake was so large, again had water splash up over the side. When I gave him a point at his wake, he did the "wave the hand in the air-whatever gesture"
 

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This weekend's Darwin Award candidate is the riff-raff driving a big cruiser, named Riff-Raff, right between two boats that were about 50-60 feet apart, one which was anchored, the other drifting.

Hey fool, would it have been so hard to change course by the same amount and go around the anchored boat, instead of racing between the two?
 

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Had a 23 foot boat run within 20 feet in excess of 40MPH of me while fishing the flat entering muscamoot on Friday. I yelled and the captain waved as if to say sorry, but then yelled at me for fishing in the middle channel.

Now I KNOW this person does not know what they are doing....I was NOT in the channel, I was in 6 feet of water on the flat. 30 feet south of me was the drop off into the channel......I was so close to running them down, but I was too busy catching fish and dodging the water I was taking over the bow from his wake.....

Seems like there are plenty of people that have no clue as to where the channel is near the lights. Some people actually beleive that the channel runs BETWEEN the two lights....or so it seems.

Other than that, didnt have too many propblems with pleasure boaters this weekend. but I did spend 90% of the 28 hours I logged this weekend in Canada or Walpole Island.
 

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I think it would obviously help if people understood the rules.
Example- What is a channel what is not, what is a wake what is not, where are the no wake zones and how the size of boat differentiates whether it is a no wake zone. and obviously basic seamanship rules.

Does anyone hold a class focused on St. Clair? I know power squadron has boaters safety but I think if people had a class that focuses soly on Lake St. Clair and it was advertised it would really help.
 

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Sorry, don't have the name or MC's, but we were at a gas dock the other day when some dude PLOWS by in a no wake zone. The guy at the gas dock yells over the PA...

"Slow Down! This is a no wake zone."

They guy turns to look

"Yeah you dickhead, don't look at me, slow down!"

 

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QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 13 2009, 08:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry, don't have the name or MC's, but we were at a gas dock the other day when some dude PLOWS by in a no wake zone. The guy at the gas dock yells over the PA...

"Slow Down! This is a no wake zone."

They guy turns to look

"Yeah you dickhead, don't look at me, slow down!"



My kind of guy
 

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QUOTE(dockrocker @ Jun 26 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>**** Public Service Announcement ****

This thread is intended to allow LSCN members to describe incidents of poor seamanship they have witnessed while out on the water. It is not intended as a bitch-fest. If you want to bitch or squabble amongst yourselves, there are several thousand other threads to choose from. Should these not meet your unique needs, this message board has thoughtfully included the ability to post a new topic. Simply use your Mark One Left Index Finger to click the "New Topic" button and away you go.

If you believe that reading descriptions of poor or questionable seamanship might bunch your undies, please note that the aforementioned Mark One Left Index Finger is also capable of *not* clicking on a particular button, thread, or post. Exercising this "not clicking" option on this particular thread may prevent uncontrolled undie bunching. Your mileage may vary.

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OK, let's try this again - this thread is intended to provide a place to post observed incidents of poor seamanship. Please keep the editorializing to a minimum, "just the facts" is the intent. I've taken the liberty of extracting the applicable posts from the other thread and putting them over here.

Note that if *you* believe it counter-productive to post MC numbers, or boat names, or what have you, you certainly have the option *not* to do so.

Didn't you give me a hard time for posting a picture a couple weeks ago?
 

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QUOTE(Bugsy Seagull @ Jul 13 2009, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(dockrocker @ Jun 26 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>**** Public Service Announcement ****

This thread is intended to allow LSCN members to describe incidents of poor seamanship they have witnessed while out on the water. It is not intended as a bitch-fest. If you want to bitch or squabble amongst yourselves, there are several thousand other threads to choose from. Should these not meet your unique needs, this message board has thoughtfully included the ability to post a new topic. Simply use your Mark One Left Index Finger to click the "New Topic" button and away you go.

If you believe that reading descriptions of poor or questionable seamanship might bunch your undies, please note that the aforementioned Mark One Left Index Finger is also capable of *not* clicking on a particular button, thread, or post. Exercising this "not clicking" option on this particular thread may prevent uncontrolled undie bunching. Your mileage may vary.

**** End PSA ****

OK, let's try this again - this thread is intended to provide a place to post observed incidents of poor seamanship. Please keep the editorializing to a minimum, "just the facts" is the intent. I've taken the liberty of extracting the applicable posts from the other thread and putting them over here.

Note that if *you* believe it counter-productive to post MC numbers, or boat names, or what have you, you certainly have the option *not* to do so.

Didn't you give me a hard time for posting a picture a couple weeks ago?


Yep and he won't tell us how he got his name
 

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QUOTE(Bugsy Seagull @ Jul 13 2009, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(dockrocker @ Jun 26 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>**** Public Service Announcement ****

This thread is intended to allow LSCN members to describe incidents of poor seamanship they have witnessed while out on the water. It is not intended as a bitch-fest. If you want to bitch or squabble amongst yourselves, there are several thousand other threads to choose from. Should these not meet your unique needs, this message board has thoughtfully included the ability to post a new topic. Simply use your Mark One Left Index Finger to click the "New Topic" button and away you go.

If you believe that reading descriptions of poor or questionable seamanship might bunch your undies, please note that the aforementioned Mark One Left Index Finger is also capable of *not* clicking on a particular button, thread, or post. Exercising this "not clicking" option on this particular thread may prevent uncontrolled undie bunching. Your mileage may vary.

**** End PSA ****

OK, let's try this again - this thread is intended to provide a place to post observed incidents of poor seamanship. Please keep the editorializing to a minimum, "just the facts" is the intent. I've taken the liberty of extracting the applicable posts from the other thread and putting them over here.

Note that if *you* believe it counter-productive to post MC numbers, or boat names, or what have you, you certainly have the option *not* to do so.

Didn't you give me a hard time for posting a picture a couple weeks ago?

I believe there was some sarcasm involved....he was getting beat up for doing the same
 

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There was a black and red seadoo jetboat that came out of MacRay harbor ON PLANE!!!! Tons of boats rafted in poorman's. The guy comes by our raft so I pull out the ol' megaphone and let him know about the 'no wake' thing. He yells to me (after being embarrassed because everyone is watching me yell at him) "nice microphone" like a tough guy.... I invited him to come over and say that again, and as he turns our way a couple other guys in our raft walk to his side and he changed his mind. Oh yeah, young kids with no life jackets too..... Clueless....
 

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Boat name: Too Many to keep track of
Boat type: Cabin Cruisers
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Location: Clinton River (Markley Marine)
Behavior: Going way too fast!
Comments: This isn't new, but I'm reaching my boiling point... People seem to think that since they are out of sight of the Sheriff they can speed up on the Clinton River and go above no wake. Yesterday while at my boat I was taking a little nap in the cabin when the boat rocked so hard that it jolted me awake.

I'm reaching the point where I'm going to install a webcam to catch these speed demons and I will post their pictures... Please for the love of God slow the heck down, if my boat rocks when one of my kids is getting on/off the dock they can fall into the water or fall into the boat and get injured!

PS, anyone who saw me going to fast two weeks ago when I went for a pump out I'm sorry, I had to steer by shifting power on my engines since my steering cables are all pulled apart. A couple of times I know I exceeded the no wake rule but it wasn't by choice, I needed to get out of the way of traffic.
 

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Boat 10 Meter Fountain
Name ~ Fast Times
Owner Loud mouth Drunk Guy
Rack stores at Anchor Bay
Drives 75-80 all the time

Everywhere, just smiles and waves at all the fishermen
Day and night full blast
... at night just don't aim for any lights ever.
During the daytime..... who cares they will move for him
Has a few hot ***** strippers (just for barmaids).....Too bad he's is married


 

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Sheamus, Just get used to it. Not trying to sound rude in any way. Just tie your boat the best you can. People are naturally rude, clueless, and ignorant. They fly thru the Clinton River all day and night, and it will never change. You will probably lose your voice yelling at all the violators. One of the reasons I got off the Clinton.

When I am in a no wake zone I stay under 5 mph to maintain no wake.

Hammer, it amazes me the people that come in on plane up to the no wake buoys into the west entrance of MacRay's while all those boats are anchored there. Despite the 150' from other boats rule, even if there was no rule. It is plain and simply disrespectful to the other boaters rafted and anchored in front as these boats are rocked by these big boats on plane.

It can be madness out there. Sometimes the rules of the lake are just thrown out the window. It becomes a matter of survival when these ignorant boaters enter your life.
 

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I'm reporting myself

last week I was heading into the clinton just south of the entrance
another boat was coming from my starboard So i can speed up before he is close or duck below him
which I think is the better move this way he won't be bothered by my wake

well in doing so another boat smaller was even more starboard side of me that I did not se at all
after I ducked the first boat I come to see this other boat I quickly move the best I can but we were not real close and no danger I waved the appoligy wave he sent off the middle finger wave and I was all good.

so if I cut you off last week I am sorry the lake is a busy place and most times things are by accedent

 

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QUOTE(Taxman @ Jul 13 2009, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Boat 10 Meter Fountain
Name ~ Fast Times
Owner Loud mouth Drunk Guy
Rack stores at Anchor Bay
Drives 75-80 all the time

Everywhere, just smiles and waves at all the fishermen
Day and night full blast
... at night just don't aim for any lights ever.
During the daytime..... who cares they will move for him
Has a few hot ***** strippers (just for barmaids).....Too bad he's is married



Oh conciders only the portion of the boat thats in the water (water line)while blasting thru the no wake zones
 

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QUOTE(Convincor @ Jul 13 2009, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sheamus, Just get used to it. Not trying to sound rude in any way. Just tie your boat the best you can. People are naturally rude, clueless, and ignorant. They fly thru the Clinton River all day and night, and it will never change. You will probably lose your voice yelling at all the violators. One of the reasons I got off the Clinton.

When I am in a no wake zone I stay under 5 mph to maintain no wake.

Hammer, it amazes me the people that come in on plane up to the no wake buoys into the west entrance of MacRay's while all those boats are anchored there. Despite the 150' from other boats rule, even if there was no rule. It is plain and simply disrespectful to the other boaters rafted and anchored in front as these boats are rocked by these big boats on plane.

It can be madness out there. Sometimes the rules of the lake are just thrown out the window. It becomes a matter of survival when these ignorant boaters enter your life.


I hear what you are saying, but "Us good boaters" shouldn't have to run and hide because some bag of a$$ wants to be a jerk. ... I have tried to shout at some boats and they don't even look at me when they are going by. .. Now if I fired a few flares across their bow maybe, but then I'll be the one getting the ticket and those flares are expense enough as it is.

I'd love to find where these guys dock their boats, get right up behind them and then slam on the power while blowing my horn!
 

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QUOTE(Sheamus @ Jul 13 2009, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Boat name: Too Many to keep track of
Boat type: Cabin Cruisers
Description:
MC #:
Location: Clinton River (Markley Marine)
Behavior: Going way too fast!
Comments: This isn't new, but I'm reaching my boiling point... People seem to think that since they are out of sight of the Sheriff they can speed up on the Clinton River and go above no wake. Yesterday while at my boat I was taking a little nap in the cabin when the boat rocked so hard that it jolted me awake.

I'm reaching the point where I'm going to install a webcam to catch these speed demons and I will post their pictures... Please for the love of God slow the heck down, if my boat rocks when one of my kids is getting on/off the dock they can fall into the water or fall into the boat and get injured!

PS, anyone who saw me going to fast two weeks ago when I went for a pump out I'm sorry, I had to steer by shifting power on my engines since my steering cables are all pulled apart. A couple of times I know I exceeded the no wake rule but it wasn't by choice, I needed to get out of the way of traffic.
 
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