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So for our maiden voyage on the boat, we decided to make the best of the cool weather last Sunday. We finally made it to Browns for the first time. Pretty cool little bar. I didnt have my no wake chart with me so we ended up idling most of the way up the channel.

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I usually use the group of houses just before Brown's as the marker for no wake for 26+ boats. There is a red buoy around there that marks something (a wreck I think) that is a good reminder too.
 

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Anyone know the lat long for the no wake??

I have to look ant my Garmin charts but there is a mark just after Canoe that I use. I thought it was an underground line but never really looked.

Also just looked up the law for No Wake in SCC - its more confusing than the chart!!! According to it there is no mention of the 200ft rule for over 26. Only 600ft.

ST. CLAIR RIVER AND CONNECTED WATERS - R281.774.15 - Slow--no wake speed.

15. (1) On the waters of the St. Clair river, from its confluence with the Black river, downstream to Lake St. Clair, including its north channel, middle channel, the Chenal A Bout Rond (the Sni Bora), the south channel, Baltimore highway, Big Fisher highway, and Sears highway, it is unlawful for:

(a) The operator of a vessel less than 26 feet in length to exceed a slow--no wake speed when within 200 feet of any shore, dock, or pierhead, and within the jurisdictional boundaries of the state of Michigan.

(b) The operator of a vessel 26 feet or more in length to exceed a slow--no wake speed when within 600 feet of any shore, dock, or pierhead, and within the jurisdictional boundaries of the state of Michigan.

(2) The provisions of this rule shall apply only to vessels used for recreational purposes.

History: Eff. November 23, 1973
 

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You can cruise on plane well past that sunken barge. You don't have to slow down until the group of islands that is just south of the entrance to Browns.

Remember, marsh doesn't count as land. The two spots in the middle channel where you can't be more than 600' from land are the short stretch where there a handful of cottages right across from the entrance to Browns, and the well-marked section a little further up river. I believe you are good to go down river as soon as that seawall ends about a hundred yards or so down river from Browns.
 

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QUOTE(Suck My Wake @ Sep 3 2009, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So for our maiden voyage on the boat, we decided to make the best of the cool weather last Sunday. We finally made it to Browns for the first time. Pretty cool little bar. I didnt have my no wake chart with me so we ended up idling most of the way up the channel.

Us and Friends at Browns.
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Wife with a bottle of horrible "champagne" my friend decided to bring. Now thats a happy boater.

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Congrats on the new boat & your 1st trip to Browns! You needed to throw some orange juice in that champagne. Mimosa's are GOOOOD!!!!!
 

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QUOTE(sleeper @ Sep 3 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can cruise on plane well past that sunken barge. You don't have to slow down until the group of islands that is just south of the entrance to Browns.

Remember, marsh doesn't count as land. The two spots in the middle channel where you can't be more than 600' from land are the short stretch where there a handful of cottages right across from the entrance to Browns, and the well-marked section a little further up river. I believe you are good to go down river as soon as that seawall ends about a hundred yards or so down river from Browns.

Is that for a boat 21 1/2 foot also????
 

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QUOTE(The Perfect Fit @ Sep 3 2009, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(sleeper @ Sep 3 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can cruise on plane well past that sunken barge. You don't have to slow down until the group of islands that is just south of the entrance to Browns.

Remember, marsh doesn't count as land. The two spots in the middle channel where you can't be more than 600' from land are the short stretch where there a handful of cottages right across from the entrance to Browns, and the well-marked section a little further up river. I believe you are good to go down river as soon as that seawall ends about a hundred yards or so down river from Browns.

Is that for a boat 21 1/2 foot also????


a 21.5' boat should not have to slow down anywhere in the middle channel, so long as you stay 200' from shore.
 

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QUOTE(Pornodave @ Sep 3 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyone know the lat long for the no wake??

I have to look ant my Garmin charts but there is a mark just after Canoe that I use. I thought it was an underground line but never really looked.

Also just looked up the law for No Wake in SCC - its more confusing than the chart!!! According to it there is no mention of the 200ft rule for over 26. Only 600ft.

ST. CLAIR RIVER AND CONNECTED WATERS - R281.774.15 - Slow--no wake speed.

15. (1) On the waters of the St. Clair river, from its confluence with the Black river, downstream to Lake St. Clair, including its north channel, middle channel, the Chenal A Bout Rond (the Sni Bora), the south channel, Baltimore highway, Big Fisher highway, and Sears highway, it is unlawful for:

(a) The operator of a vessel less than 26 feet in length to exceed a slow--no wake speed when within 200 feet of any shore, dock, or pierhead, and within the jurisdictional boundaries of the state of Michigan.

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The operator of a vessel 26 feet or more in length to exceed a slow--no wake speed when within 600 feet of any shore, dock, or pierhead, and within the jurisdictional boundaries of the state of Michigan.

(2) The provisions of this rule shall apply only to vessels used for recreational purposes.

History: Eff. November 23, 1973

I wish I had the no wake points on the GPS too. Seems like they should be available somewhere. But then again, the lack of specific points found thus far probably means it is entirely open to the interpretation of law enforcement. Might be legal on Monday, but not on Tuesday.


Obviously, this whole issue remains unclear to me. If the 600' rule for over 26' is true, doesn't that in effect make 95% of the Middle Channel no wake, since there is no possible way to be 600' from both shorelines???

"But officer, when I'm on a plane, only 26' of hull is in the water."
 

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AP - most of the middle channel is marshland, and it doesn't count. You only need to stay 600' from the seawalls. There are two sections, pretty easy to find. One is marked pretty well, although it just says "no wake" and nothing about 26' and up. The other is right by browns. Across from browns is all seawall, when you're in front of that seawall it's no wake for 26' and up.

Even in the "wake" areas, though, I doubt "600'" is enforced strictly. Stay a safe distance from shore and don't be stupid and you'll be fine. If they want to stop you, they'll stop you anyway, and if they're out revenuin' they'll find something to write you for.
 
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