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I've seen that some states offer a tax refund on gas for boaters because the tax covers highway use, which we oviously don't use! Anyone know if Michigan offers this?
 

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This would be nice...along with no pricing difference from land to marina...There is no excuse...this is price gouging regardless if it is seasonal or not!
 

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These were the states that I could find that offer this tax refund:

Alaska
Connecticut
Massachusetts
Missouri
Nebraska
North Carolina
Texas
Virginia
Washington
Wyoming

Perhaps if Michigan does not offer this we should use the LSCN size to petition the state to offer tax refunds for recreational boaters in Michigan. Why pay tax that goes to repairing highways if we are only on the water. Doesn't seem fair.
 

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I would be in support of finding more info on this and calling our local representatives.

I'm not sure if the road taxes are included in marina gas prices. Trying to find a place that doesn't mark the gas up more than land prices will be impossible. Owners are smart...they will charge what the market will pay, especially for boats that sit at wells or are racked stored.

And guess what...we always pay because we do not want to just sit on our expensive boats in a marina boat well, we want to get out on the water.
 

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QUOTE(MooseKnuckle @ May 10 2003, 08:41 PM)I would be in support of finding more info on this and calling our local representatives.

I'm not sure if the road taxes are included in marina gas prices. Trying to find a place that doesn't mark the gas up more than land prices will be impossible. Owners are smart...they will charge what the market will pay, especially for boats that sit at wells or are racked stored.

And guess what...we always pay because we do not want to just sit on our expensive boats in a marina boat well, we want to get out on the water.
If we could get it so that the marinas didn't have to pay taxes for the roads, they would still charge the same because of the market as mentioned already, but a refund. That's an idea. JOE, Where are you?
 

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I am not defending the price of gas on the lake (I have buy it just like you do except for trailerables who have the advantage), but here are a few things to consider:

The propriator has a 4-6 month window to cover his/her expenses while the "land shark" has 12.

The price of property is greater for waterfront than for inland.

The proprieator has insurance premiums for EPA issues that land based suppliers do not.

I'm not upset at paying 1.70 - 1.90 on the lake for 4 months, I'm upset at paying 1.40 - 1.50 anywhere else for 12 months! You get those prices down and the other will follow.
 

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This is not about getting the gas stations to lower what they charge. The government adds on a $.19 a gallon for road repairs, etc. Since boaters don't use the roads, many states offer a tax refund for this $.19.
 

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Everone now..

REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND

I think Lansing can hear it now


A lot of our representatives got to have boats too. They would love a tax break for them probably more than the people of the state.
 

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OK, someone must have a listing of all our representatives. If I get the list, I will volunteer to send them all an email with all of LSCN comments about gas tax rebate.

REBATE REBATE REBATE REBATE REBATE
 

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For the Michigan House of Representatives..........

For Macomb County we have: (listing is in order of District, Representative, Phone, Email)

24 Jack Brandenburg 517-373-0113 [email protected]

25 Steve Bieda 517-373-1772 [email protected]

28 Lisa Wojno 517-373-2275 [email protected]

30 Sal Rocca 517-373-7768 [email protected]

31 Paul Gieleghem 517-373-0159 [email protected]

32 Daniel Acciavatti 517-373-8931 [email protected]

33 Leon Drolet 517-373-0820 [email protected]

36 Brian Palmer 517-373-0843 [email protected]

42 Frank Accavitti 517-373-0854 [email protected]

For St Clair County we have: (in same order form)

32 Daniel Acciavatti 517-373-8931 [email protected]

81 Lauren Hager 517-373-1790 [email protected]

83 Stephen Ehardt 517-373-0835 [email protected]

For Wayne County we have: (in same order form)

01 Edward Gaffney 517-373-0154 [email protected]

02 Kenneth Daniels 517-373-0106 [email protected]

03 Artina Tinsley Hardman 517-373-1776 [email protected]

04 Mary Waters 517-373-1008 [email protected]

05 Bill McConico 517-373-0144 [email protected]

06 Marsha Cheeks 517-373-0844 [email protected]

07 Virgil Smith 517-373-0589 virgil[email protected]

08 Alma Stallworth 517-373-2276 [email protected]

09 Tupac Hunter 517-373-1705 [email protected]

10 Triette Reeves 517-373-6990 [email protected]

11 Morris Hood, III 517-373-3815 [email protected]

12 Steve Tobocman 517-373-0823 [email protected]

13 Barbara Farrah 517-373-0845 [email protected]

14 William O'Neil 517-373-0140 [email protected]

15 Gary Woronchak 517-373-0847 [email protected]

16 Jim Plakas 517-373-0849 [email protected]

17 Daniel Paletko 517-373-0857 [email protected]

18 Glenn Anderson 517-373-2576 [email protected]

19 John Pastor 517-373-3920 [email protected]

20 John Stewart 517-373-3816 [email protected]

21 Philip LaJoy 517-373-2575 [email protected]

22 Hoon-Yung Hopgood 517-373-0852 [email protected]

23 Kathleen Law 517-373-0855 [email protected]
 

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How about for lawnmowers, snowblowers, etc.?
 

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QUOTE(Snowmaker @ May 12 2003, 10:18 AM)How about for lawnmowers, snowblowers, etc.?

Snowdreamer, I dont think so. Afterall, to get the gas for these things, you have to drive there to get them.

Trailerables have to drive to the station to fill up so it is justified for them. Boats larger than that, we cant drive to the corner and fill up so why pay the tax? We already pay for a parking spot (slip) plus the registration and associated taxes, ect... Why not try and get a break for having to stay in the water season round? We pay in all kinds of ways that equal more taxes (in purchases specific for water kept boats) that trailerables dont, so doesnt everyone think we should be entitled to a little break. Sure would be nice. Figure a little extra change comes back to us and we can patronize more lake front facilities and spend more $$ and pay more tax and Lansing books go even higher. Sounds like a win win situation to me.
 

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Email was sent to all representatives that were posted. Here is copy:

Dear Michigan Representatives,

I have volunteered writing this email on behalf of all Michigan Boaters. A
recent forum was started on www.lakestclair.net (LSCN) regarding gasoline
taxes and how other states (such as Alaska, Connecticut, Massachusetts,
Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming
and New Hampshire) have a gas tax refund for marine gas purchases.
Currently, I believe Michigan's State Road Tax on gas purchases is included
in the cost of marine gas. Therefore, many of us Michigan boaters feel the
road tax is an unnecessary expense as our driving is on Michigan waterways,
NOT state and local roads/highways.

Our goal is not to eliminate the tax, as some boaters impact roadways with
their trailers. However, we would like to see a refundable credit of the
Road Tax on our state tax returns or in the form of a check for each gallon
of gasoline purchased at a marina located on Michigan waterways.

We are asking for this topic to be brought up in current year discussions
with all Michigan Representatives and voted on as quickly as possible. I
can instruct all members of LSCN to email his or her support along with all
their friends in Michigan. As you know, Michigan has the number one
boating registration in the country.

I will perform a follow-up by phone or email in the next couple of weeks so I can pass along good news to my fellow boaters.

Your response to this concern is greatly appreciated.
 
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