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With three days coming up of 50+ degrees, it's hard to think that that warmer temperatures in February are neccessarily a bad thing...


Although this 3 day "heat wave" might not be attributed to "Global warming" -- there is proof that the overall temperature on this planet has been going up. Glaciers are melting, permafrost is thawing, etc., etc. And just look at the heat wave from last year that killed over 20,000!!

So what's your thoughts on this global warming talk? Do you think it's just the normal cycle of our climate? Do you think it's anything to worry about?
 

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without launching into a confusing and controversial statement, I will just say I think it is a natural cycle of the earth's environment.
 

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QUOTE(Capt'n Mike @ Feb 25 2004, 11:54 PM)So you aren't too worried about it?
naaa, I do my best to not worry about things that I have no control over. That is not to say that it will not affect our lives, just that I am not worried about it at this point and when adaptation is needed, we'll adapt.
 

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What ever happens happens, before it was another ice age. now its global warming.
 

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As cold as this winter was!! Are they still talking about global warming?

My gut feeling says it is a cycle and not man made. I remember having the crap scared out of me as a kid in the early 70's when "the science community" was proclaiming that another ice age was on it's way and we could all go the way of the dinosaur when the next ice age hits. <_< <_< Yeah, technology has come a long way since then but man is just as panicky as ever. Scientist are also prone to making bold claims to keep the grant money coming in, "for further study".
 

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Are these the same meteorologists that can't get tomorrows weather right?
 

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Ice age in 2020? I heard they'll be catastrophic flooding around that time that will affect the whole planet. As long as we continue using fossil fuels, and eroding the upper layers of the atmosphere, we're all going to pay the price, somehow. All this reprocution business could take decades, or centuries to materialize. The fate of the planet, in a small way, is in our hands. Mars anyone?
 

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QUOTE(Mr. Big @ Feb 26 2004, 08:40 AM)The fate of the planet, in a small way, is in our hands. Mars anyone?
Ya, lets go screw up that planet too.
 

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QUOTE(Capt'n Mike @ Feb 26 2004, 12:46 AM)Funny you mention the ice age. That's what has me asking this. Scientists sat that global warming is contributing to the next ice age that is virtually right around the corner. Changes are occuring that suggest Europe could freeze over as early as 2020!

yes, supposedly global warming is causing ice caps to melt altering weather patterns and water depth (flooding) to where europe is supposed to freeze soon. Talk to a European scientist though and they say we're on our way to extinctio by these very same forces.

The earth will do what the earth wants to do and all we can do is sit back and watch the show.
 

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Funny this topic came up.......Last night I watch an old movie named ....

"Time Machine".......It show the earth having several ice ages .........Way I see it

if it happens while I`m alive i get in my boat to avoid the floods.....
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The earth may be getting warmer, but not at any greater rate than it was 500 years ago.

The theory that we're messing up the ozone layer is total BS. The earth naturally emits more "greenhouse gases" in one year than man-made objects have in all of our existance.
 

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MYTH: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicts an increase in the global average temperature of only 2.5°F (1.4°C) to 10.4°F (5.8°C) over the coming century. This small change, less than the current daily temperature range for most major cities, is hardly cause for concern.

FACT: Global average temperature is calculated from temperature readings around the Earth. While temperature does vary considerably at a daily level in any one place, global average temperature is remarkably constant. According to analyses of ice cores, tree rings, pollen and other "climate proxies," the average temperature of the Northern Hemisphere had varied up or down by only a few tenths of a degree Celsius between 1000 AD and about 1900, when a rapid warming began. A global average temperature change ranging from 2.5°F (1.4°C) to 10.4°F (5.8°C) would translate into climate-related impacts that are much larger and faster than any that have occurred during the 10,000-year history of civilization.

From scientific analyses of past ages, we know that even small global average temperature changes can lead to large climate shifts. For example, the average global temperature difference between the end of the last ice age (when much of the Northern Hemisphere was buried under thousands of feet of ice) and today's interglacial climate is only about 5°C (10°F).

More info at this link Global Warming: Fact vs. Myth
 

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I don't know a ton about it to comment, but I can say that I think it is a problem for many nations and communities. Isn't Amsterdam like under sea level? There is a island off of Alaska that will be underwater if it happens too I believe.
 

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QUOTE(sleeper @ Feb 26 2004, 11:11 AM)The earth may be getting warmer, but not at any greater rate than it was 500 years ago.
Yes and no.
It's interesting that prior to the most recent ice age (13,000 years ago), there weren't factories around to pollute the air, fossil fuels beng burnt, etc., etc. But a gradual change in climate was found.

The crazy thing now, is that they don't expect this to be a gradual change. There's factors in the oceanic system that could cause it to change as quick as flipping a light switch.
 

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If Global Warming creates the next ice age in our lifetime just think about following:

It's easier to create heat for warmth than it is to get cool when it's too hot. We can use coal, gas, wood, electricity, man made fabrics, each other.

When it's too hot, sure you can use electricity until the power drain knocks out the grid all across the nation (remember last year), and there is always boating, swimming etc. but too hot for too long = less water or no water.

Besides, I'm sure you've all heard of Ice Boats!!!
 
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