Did anybody else see that helo that came accross the bay yesterday? He was about 10-15 ft off the deck and headed tword Selfridge. He hung by Selfridge for a couple of mins then popped up and went accross the base. It was a small blue and white helo, he crossed in front of me about 50 yards. Its bad enough that we have to watch out for other boaters now we have to watch the skys to.
There was an a$$ clown in a small plane (non float plane) flying the deck in the moot a few weekends ago.....JUST STUPID! I couldnt see his MC's to put him in the hull of shame!!!
QUOTE(sunsation98 @ Aug 3 2009, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There was an a$$ clown in a small plane (non float plane) flying the deck in the moot a few weekends ago.....JUST STUPID! I couldnt see his MC's to put him in the hull of shame!!!
yeah seen that gut when we were out with friends in the 4th of july weekend. flew less then ten or twenty feet off the deck, cocky, but yeah i'm thinking not to smart with all the boat traffic moving or not. he was lower then th tops of the small boats because I had to stand on top of my buddys cabin cruiser and still lost site of him.
I have no accounting of any low flybys...but I did see it again ydy whilst driving home from work.
It appeared to be travelling the same path....right along the coast line.
I haven't read up on it...(no time)....
so...pardon me for asking...
but is this a good thing ??
it seems rather ominous at the moment ???
If the plane looked like this (referring to paint jobs versus model type)
Cessna C-172
or this:
Cessna C-210
again, it is your CBP hard at work.
From their website: "CBP Air and Marine's [insert aircraft name here] surveillance aircraft, which fly with a crew of two (pilot and observer), are particularly effective platforms for law enforcement operations. They provide better range and endurance than helicopters and blend more effectively with local traffic to mask the presence of continuous air surveillance."
FYI : Before people start crucifying the pilots of the helicopter or of the airplane in question for flying "too low", I thought it would be a good idea to explain the rules for such operations.
IF they were flying over the water, which it sounds like they were, they are perfectly legal to do so inches above the water so long as they maintain a 500ft. separation from any man-made object.
The separation rules are even less restrictive if the the aircraft is engaged in a commercial or a military operation that requires such a maneuver. There are also more rules for flying over sparsely and heavily populated areas as well as subjective
rules that the FAA could enforce that may apply to this situation, but that is the job of the FAA. I would guess that the pilots were just having a little fun. You get a real
sense of speed when you are flying low. Plus it is a lot of fun.
QUOTE(vinnie @ Aug 5 2009, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The one we seen wasnt border patrol, it was smaller than the one in the pic. Definatly privately owned.
Coulda been the BoatPix helo
QUOTE(Red Tail @ Aug 5 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>FYI : Before people start crucifying the pilots of the helicopter or of the airplane in question for flying "too low", I thought it would be a good idea to explain the rules for such operations.
IF they were flying over the water, which it sounds like they were, they are perfectly legal to do so inches above the water so long as they maintain a 500ft. separation from any man-made object.
The separation rules are even less restrictive if the the aircraft is engaged in a commercial or a military operation that requires such a maneuver. There are also more rules for flying over sparsely and heavily populated areas as well as subjective
rules that the FAA could enforce that may apply to this situation, but that is the job of the FAA. I would guess that the pilots were just having a little fun. You get a real
sense of speed when you are flying low. Plus it is a lot of fun.
So how low do you get that 747 you drive?
the low flyer was a very small one seater (maybe two). I doubt the plane was greater than 500 feet from any man-made object (ie boats). I've seen it out there before. cant remeber the colors or markings, wanna say light brown or tan. bubble canopy, looks like a mini wwII fighter plane, wings midship on bottom of the fuselage. not saying he was illegal, but not sure ifthe manuver was too smart, fly bridge boats in the moot are supposed to be used as air race obstacles.
QUOTE(Stodge @ Aug 5 2009, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Red Tail @ Aug 5 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>FYI : Before people start crucifying the pilots of the helicopter or of the airplane in question for flying "too low", I thought it would be a good idea to explain the rules for such operations.
IF they were flying over the water, which it sounds like they were, they are perfectly legal to do so inches above the water so long as they maintain a 500ft. separation from any man-made object.
The separation rules are even less restrictive if the the aircraft is engaged in a commercial or a military operation that requires such a maneuver. There are also more rules for flying over sparsely and heavily populated areas as well as subjective
rules that the FAA could enforce that may apply to this situation, but that is the job of the FAA. I would guess that the pilots were just having a little fun. You get a real
sense of speed when you are flying low. Plus it is a lot of fun.
So how low do you get that 747 you drive?
QUOTE(Soo Sassy @ Aug 5 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Stodge @ Aug 5 2009, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Red Tail @ Aug 5 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>FYI : Before people start crucifying the pilots of the helicopter or of the airplane in question for flying "too low", I thought it would be a good idea to explain the rules for such operations.
IF they were flying over the water, which it sounds like they were, they are perfectly legal to do so inches above the water so long as they maintain a 500ft. separation from any man-made object.
The separation rules are even less restrictive if the the aircraft is engaged in a commercial or a military operation that requires such a maneuver. There are also more rules for flying over sparsely and heavily populated areas as well as subjective
rules that the FAA could enforce that may apply to this situation, but that is the job of the FAA. I would guess that the pilots were just having a little fun. You get a real
sense of speed when you are flying low. Plus it is a lot of fun.
So how low do you get that 747 you drive?
You drive a car...you pilot a plane
You park a plane, you park a car. Why can't you park a boat?
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