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Eric call me NOW YOU DUMB F%^& I'm NOT JOKING THIS IS THE DUMBEST THING YOU COULD DO. you realize the issurance stop once the wheels leave pavment. THE STATE COULD TAKE A HOUSE CAR EVERYTHING AWAY TO PAY FOR CLEAN UP IF IT BROKE THROUGH FINES ARE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS. GET OFF THE NET AND CALL ME DUMB F$%^ You TO STEVE
 

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ERIC CALL NOW
 

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Wow. Its more serious than I thought.
 

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THE LAST BUS DRIVER WAS FIRED FOR TELLING PAUL "JOE WAS USING THE BUS", AND TELLING ME "PAUL WAS", IN TRUTH HE HAD SCHEDULED A BUS RIDE FOR PROFIT. A BIG NO NO IN MY BOOK!!!

THIS RANKS #2

STUPID OR GREEDY?

WHICH IS WORSE?
 

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Strength Table

This table of ice strength is presented for the benefit of ice anglers and other winter sports people. The figures are for clear, blue ice on lakes and ponds. Reduce strength values 15% for clear blue, river ice. Slush or snow (white) ice is only one-half the strength of blue ice and can be very treacherous. "Honeycombed" ice, which occurs in the spring or during major winter thaws as the ice is melting, is the most dangerous ice, and best avoided unless the angler is certain there is a safe layer of solid ice beneath the honeycombed surface. Anglers should also be aware that many lakes and ponds contain spring holes and other areas of current that may create deceptively dangerous thin spots in areas that are otherwise safe. Always use caution, and don't venture out onto unfamiliar waters without checking ice thickness frequently.
Ice Thickness
(inches) Permissible Load
(clear, blue, lake ice)
2 One person on foot
3 Group, in single file
5 Group (6-8 people) together
7½ Passenger car (2 ton gross)
8 Light truck (2½ ton gross)
10 Medium truck (3½ ton gross)
12 Heavy truck (7 to 8 ton gross)
15 10 tons
20 25 tons
25 45 tons-------CBJ here the ice was 22 inches thick.
30 70 tons

Means we got room for passengers next time
 

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QUOTE(captpeglegg @ Mar 3 2003, 03:45 PM)^ You TO STEVE
I hope you are not referring to me....I am merely a instrument of entertainment. Just because I make the guns doesn't mean I shoot people.
 

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QUOTE(Captian Beer Jammer @ Mar 3 2003, 12:02 PM)Strength Table

This table of ice strength is presented for the benefit of ice anglers and other winter sports people. The figures are for clear, blue ice on lakes and ponds. Reduce strength values 15% for clear blue, river ice. Slush or snow (white) ice is only one-half the strength of blue ice and can be very treacherous. "Honeycombed" ice, which occurs in the spring or during major winter thaws as the ice is melting, is the most dangerous ice, and best avoided unless the angler is certain there is a safe layer of solid ice beneath the honeycombed surface. Anglers should also be aware that many lakes and ponds contain spring holes and other areas of current that may create deceptively dangerous thin spots in areas that are otherwise safe. Always use caution, and don't venture out onto unfamiliar waters without checking ice thickness frequently.
Ice Thickness
(inches) Permissible Load
(clear, blue, lake ice)
2 One person on foot
3 Group, in single file
5 Group (6-8 people) together
7½ Passenger car (2 ton gross)
8 Light truck (2½ ton gross)
10 Medium truck (3½ ton gross)
12 Heavy truck (7 to 8 ton gross)
15 10 tons
20 25 tons
25 45 tons-------CBJ here the ice was 22 inches thick.
30 70 tons

Means we got room for passengers next time


Balls!

I'll send ya my phone number, call before departing on the next tour!

On second thought, maybe I should just shut the he!! up and be glad I'm not getting the verbal a$$-whoopin' these fellas are getting.
 

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"should also be aware that many lakes and ponds contain spring holes and other areas of current that may create deceptively dangerous thin" There is no way of telling how thick it really is until you measure it, escpecially near the launches/access sites. A few sleds and fourwheelers went through last week (from what I had heard there was open water Sunday between Cotton Road and Selfridge). Where was your access?

Sorry CBJ, I have to side with your bro and the Taxman. Single fact.....no insurance on the ice. You cannot assume that kind of responsibilty to make a decision like that without any ownership regardless of amount of alcohol consumed (like it would make it any smarter). It COULD have been bad, for all of us here especially Peg and Tax, it wasn't.

Let it be a lesson to all, no road, no insurance. Be DAMN sure it is safe even for a sled or quad.

Now for the punishment. Be easy on them Peg and Tax. Afterall no harm no foul, but as long as a lesson is learned.....I feel they may have already.

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QUOTE(Mr. Big @ Mar 3 2003, 12:49 PM)"There is no such thing as SAFE ice."
Except the ice in your drink.
 

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Don't think I forgot about tyhis thread. Please share your horor stories about breaking through the ice.
 

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everyone should know better... My 10 year old niece knows better.... anyone who watches the news should KNOW BETTER, as a adult --- they should know better too!
 
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