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So I'm coming home from my dad's place in Memphis just North of Richmond.

I am on Palms Rd. just south of 26 mile when a St. Clair County sheriff is on my bumper. I wasn't speeding so I just set the cruise control and keep going. She rides my bumper for a while making me nervous. We didn't have our seat belts on so I thought maybe that was it.

Finally she hits the lights. I pull over she takes forever to get out of her vehicle.

Walks up and ask where I was and where I was going. I answer and hand her license and registration. I'm still confused.

She tells me she ran my plate and it comes up stolen vehicle. I bought the car from my dad. I always suspected he was into some shady deals.

I have a personalized plate and have had it for many years. She ran the VIN and plate and my ID. She says might be an out of state issue with another plate or vehicle.

I will be calling the Secretary of State and State Police on Monday.

Of all the things I have been pulled over for this is a new one.

Matt
 

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You are lucky - that is usually a felony stop which would be real scary!!!!
 

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Oh - and do you have the scanner audio of the stop saved????
 

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QUOTE(Pornodave @ Jun 13 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh - and do you have the scanner audio of the stop saved????


I'm sittin' here listening to some archived stuff and the wife says "hey do you have our stop on the recording?"

To which I say "I would if I had that new digital scanner"

She said why don't you get one? How much are they?

Conversation over. I tried.

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I have a 1973 Michigan plate on my 1973 Corvette which is perfectly legal. It's registered just like any other personalized plate. I got pulled over by a Sterling Heights cop who claimed he could find no record of my plate even though I had the registration and proof of insurance. He told me I better "straighten this out with the Secretary of state" because next time he would impound the car.

So I go to the Secretarys' office and they tell me it's all fine, registered and legal. Kinda scary the cops can't find a legal plate in the system.
 

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QUOTE(wantsa311 @ Jun 14 2009, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a 1973 Michigan plate on my 1973 Corvette which is perfectly legal. It's registered just like any other personalized plate. I got pulled over by a Sterling Heights cop who claimed he could find no record of my plate even though I had the registration and proof of insurance. He told me I better "straighten this out with the Secretary of state" because next time he would impound the car.

So I go to the Secretarys' office and they tell me it's all fine, registered and legal. Kinda scary the cops can't find a legal plate in the system.

Kind of scary, with all the lap tops, radio's, and techno-LOL-ogy some of the "less educated" law inforcement, could still screw up a J-walking ticket!!!!!(do they still give those out???)
 

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I had a personalized licensed plate on my Trans Am. I got pulled over for someone else being an a-hole in Clinton Township. They ran my plate and asked me to step out of the car. I sat in the back of the police car for a little while and they said the plate had come up stolen. I was like WTF?! Then, a lieutenant from the police department I was friends with came on up and said, "That's Dave, there's no way it's stolen. Let him go." They asked me the same thing, to get my license plate straightened around with Secretary of State.
 

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This is what happened guys; When you run a plate, it's checked through three databases...Secretary of State (SOS), Law enforcement Information Network (LEIN) and National Crime Information Center (NCIC). SOS gives you registration info and is in state. LEIN gives you wants and stolen information, also in state. NCIC gives you wants and stolen information for the U.S. and canada. The newer in car computer system atomatically brings up the NCIC screen first and highlights it in red if there is a hit. NCIC will hit on a plate, regardless of the state, and on the last six characters of the VIN. When you get the hit you have to scroll through the screen and verify the vehicle description and entering state. It's a very stresful situation as you are preparing to get into a car chase, chase a runner through the tullies, engage in a close quarters fire fight with (perhaps) multiple bad guys, or at the very best, add insult to injury and explain to the driver/owner how the stolen then recovered car was never taken out of the system. It's easy to get caught in the monent and not pay attention to the state/providence information.
 

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QUOTE(Blue Goose @ Jun 14 2009, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is what happened guys; When you run a plate, it's checked through three databases...Secretary of State (SOS), Law enforcement Information Network (LEIN) and National Crime Information Center (NCIC). SOS gives you registration info and is in state. LEIN gives you wants and stolen information, also in state. NCIC gives you wants and stolen information for the U.S. and canada. The newer in car computer system atomatically brings up the NCIC screen first and highlights it in red if there is a hit. NCIC will hit on a plate, regardless of the state, and on the last six characters of the VIN. When you get the hit you have to scroll through the screen and verify the vehicle description and entering state. It's a very stresful situation as you are preparing to get into a car chase, chase a runner through the tullies, engage in a close quarters fire fight with (perhaps) multiple bad guys, or at the very best, add insult to injury and explain to the driver/owner how the stolen then recovered car was never taken out of the system. It's easy to get caught in the monent and not pay attention to the state/providence information.
Hmm, sounds like NCIC is the problem?
Matt if I were you after you double check things with SOS, double check with your local PD. Stop by, tell them what happened and ask them to run your plate info and see is the problem still exists. I'm thinking SOS has no way of correcting a problem in the NCIC system. If it comes up as stolen again, you may have more you need to do, to get things straightened out.
 

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Hmmmm...sorry guys...i knew what I meant. Your car is not in the system as a stolen vehicle. The officer got a hit on an corressponding out of state plate, or the last six of your vin, what we call a sound alike, and didn't initially catch it. He/she should have explained this to you so you wouldn't be left wondering.

If in fact your car was in the system as stolen, the officer would have had to make contact with the dept. that entered it and verify it's status. If the entering dept. said it was legitimately stolen, it would have been impounded. If it had been stolen then recovered and wasn't removed from the system, the call from the officer on the road would have resolved it.
 

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Here's what's scary-

The in car computer link has been around for years and still gets screwed up.

Now a certain hospital is touting how it's going paperless on health care and prescription info......

Do I smell future lawsuits?
 

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QUOTE(gregg g @ Jun 14 2009, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here's what's scary-

The in car computer link has been around for years and still gets screwed up.

Now a certain hospital is touting how it's going paperless on health care and prescription info......

Do I smell future lawsuits?
Computers do allow screw ups to propagate very efficiently.
 

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Ok...you guys just aren't getting it. The system is working just fine....people from other parts of the country do drive through here on occassion and some of them are even in stolen cars. Lets call this operator error.....it's up to the officer on scene to check the vehicle description and the state that entered the car into the system. Unless you see alot of these, and I'm guessing they don't see a lot where this happened, it's easy to get a little tunnel vision when you see the bright red screen that says "STOLEN"

Your medical stuff will be a lot harder to get straight than this ever would!
 

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While we have had "in-car" computers in our vehicles for some time now, we are operating with a fairly new program, which changes and updates very frequently. Also keep in mind, that the systems we use are unfortunately "low bid" and pretty user unfriendly in my opinion. In the scenario that was presented in this post, it definately sounds like user error.."sound-alike" information pops up all the time on our computers, not just with license plates or VIN's either. We get person sound alikes too. If we run your name through our system, and it's similiar to a "bad guy's" or girl's name, their info will pop up as well. Time and again, I see inexperienced officers get excited over sound alike information. If the info is looked at closely, it's usually pretty simple to sort out the information.
 

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From what I've read, this is mostly with personalized plates?
 
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