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American Bass Anglers will be hosting a paper tournament on Kent Lake Sunday, May 9th.

Yearly Membership Fee = $25
Tournament cost = $55.00
Optional Big Bass = $5.00

We will be launching at the West Boat Launch.

Registration is from 6:00 - 6:30
Pre-Meeting is from 6:30 - 6:50
Start time is 7:00am
End time is 3:00pm

You can register at the launch.

American Bass Anglers is a draw trail format and we have room for both boaters and non-boaters alike.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

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i challenge any and all of you to come out to kent and try me. i am the kent lake master. the locals call me god. if any of you sissy boys think you have what it takes to beat "mr kent lake" i invite you to meet me at the west launch at 6:00am next sunday ( dont forget to save some money for mothers day ) i will be buying my mom something real nice with all your money.

just dont ask me how i did last sunday

ok guys, for real. would love to see as many of you as possible this weekend. the ABA is a great trail. Anthony Adams is a great director. we have some of the nicest guys in the club. come out and give us a shot. cheap membership fees, cheap tourney fees. great payouts. and you can win stuff. what kind of stuff you ask? the great kind.

come fish with us.

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Please explain the pairings and sharing the boat. The ABA rules state the boater & non-boater get equal time to control the boat. I personally don't plan on fishing out of the back of my boat ever, thats why I make the payments, do the maintance, etc. Also, do boaters get paired with other boaters if short on non-boaters? If not, it would be a handicap having to control the boat to allow the non-boater to fish, without "back-ending them" while others are fishing alone. Sorry these statements are all negatives, but right now they are keeping me from wanting to fish the ABA.

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deadstick,

i personally have never had a co angler request to operate my boat. i think it is just to give the coangler the same 'advantages' ( if you want to call it that ) that the boater has. the boater is fishing against the non boaters for points and/or monies/prizes. it is not set up like the bfl or everstars etc where the boaters fish against the other boaters and the co anglers against each other.

to my knowledge, there have been no problems with this issue thus far in district 7. as long as the boater and co angler can agree on something. you must allow the co angler equal time in an area he/she wishes to fish however.

i suppose if the co angler requested to run your trolling motor you would have to let them. if not, it would be a violation of a rule and result in a disqualification.

as i stated above, i am not aware of any problems concerning this issue in the past. i have had guys ask if i wanted them to run the trolling motor so i could relax and fish. i have also took time to teach guys how to operate the motor. but have never had anyone want to use it.

as far as boater/boater pairings if it comes to that boater will ride with boaters and must come to terms on whos boat will be used. in the event that one boater is left with no co angler to fish with, we have allowed the boater to go out alone.

we really havent had problems with either issue. please dont let this keep you from fishing with us. we really do have a great group of guys and we always have fun.

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I want to draw both of you.( as long as Madman promises not to lose his motor)
Is that fair?


The rule means that both anglers can have equal time fishing their waters of choice. Not actual operation of the boat.
 

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Hey Madman how did you do sunday again?

The issues described above are non-issues. I have never had a non-boater request to operate my troling motor. In fact most are afraid to.

This sunday is a paper tourney and for this one tourney everyone must be paired up. So there is a chance a boater may have to ride with another boater. I am sure we could easily get a guy or two to volunteer if this becomes an issue. I have tried to avoid this issue by asking members to pre-register for this event.

In any other event if you bring your boat you fish out of it.

If you pre-register for this event I can ensure your boater status.

Like I've said feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
 

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bish, im assuming you r coming out this year. looking foward to fishing with you again this season. i cant promis you my motor will stay on, but if it does fall off we can always call dan to come pick us up and take us to macdonalds. he owes us that much


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ABA - This is from the ABA website under "Tournament rules"

***BOAT OPERATION: Any competitor answering yes to the question: "Will you enter a boat?" will be expected to make that boat available for the tournament. Partners must discuss boat operation prior to ooze-off. Each partner is entitled to an equal time in the front of the boat and for trolling motor operation. The non-boater is responsible for any damages, which may occur while he/she is operating the trolling motor. Each partner is entitled to an equal number of hours to fish his/her selected waters. Any contestant who, in the judgment of the tournament director, operates the boat in such a manner as to unfairly handicap their partner shall be disqualified. It is the responsibility of the non-boater to reimburse the boater in an amount mutually agreed. It is suggested that reimbursement be $20.00 or ½ of fuel cost to defray daily expenses.****

You say that if I bring my boat to the tournament, I will use it and not be paired with another boater. Right? So all boaters use their own boat and only some get paired with non-boaters? Also, if I don't draw a non-boater then I fish my water for 8hrs. If I do draw a non-boater then I may only fish my water for 4hrs then either run the boat in their water or they run my boat in their water. Either way I don't see the equal playing field between competitors.

You obviously have these things worked out, cause others are fishing the ABA, but I just want to understand what I am getting into prior to joining! By the way this is not regarding the "paper tournament" but the regular season tournaments.

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You are correct that is what the rules state..... Keep in mind those rules are slightly different for the paper tournament for the obvious reasons.

However what you need to understand is that the boaters and non-boaters work together, form a game plan, and help each other. In the ABA it's an extremely friendly atmosphere. Keep in mind that these non-boaters are willing to work with you, most all prefer not to run your trolling motor, like me and madman have stated NONE have asked nor wanted to run our trolling motors. If the boaters and non-boaters work together, talk things through, have a solid understanding of what each other prefers, it always works out.

To date our district has not had one single instance where there was any problem with this format. Everyone enjoys, likes and understands the positives that come with it.

I am sure if you gave it a try you would find that it is a fun and enjoyable experience.
 

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QUOTEYou say that if I bring my boat to the tournament, I will use it and not be paired with another boater. Right? So all boaters use their own boat and only some get paired with non-boaters? Also, if I don't draw a non-boater then I fish my water for 8hrs. If I do draw a non-boater then I may only fish my water for 4hrs then either run the boat in their water or they run my boat in their water. Either way I don't see the equal playing field between competitors.

Let me add this....

First all boaters talk to the non-boater prior to each event. They discuss who's on fish ect. The boater usualy decides if he wants to try his game plan or the game plan of his non-boater (If the non-boater even has one) Usually the boater try's his water first, if your on fish your non-boater is not going to have a problem doing what your doing. If you're not on fish your non-boater maybe able to put you on fish. IN most all cases it is an advantage to have a non-boater not a disadvantage, you have a netter, you have two anglers and more options.

Like I've said feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
 

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I fished the ABA last year as a non-boater and had no problems with the guys I was paired with. They would ask if I had any ideas for fishing spots and if I wanted to run the trolling motor. I rather fish the back because then I can concentrate on fishing not boat control and fishing.
 

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Hey Madwags,

Momma won't let you come out and play?

Your suppose to take her out on Saturday Night for a movie and dinner. Buy her flowers and then say..... since we don't have anything planned for Sunday and since we celebrated your day today, mind if I go fishing?
 

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i think it went extremely well. it was by far the biggest event dist 7 has ever had. we had 38 member in attendance. there were some very nice limits caught considering the lake has been tough for the past two weeks.

i, of course, got my butt handed to me once again but still managed to finish 12th with 7.02 lbs for 3 fish.

got to meet a few lscn members. eric smith and deadstick. eric was my co angler that day and he was a very cool and funny guy. eric, dont forget to pick me up some of those pink lures i know your going out to buy


despite not catching many fish, i think we still had a good time.

like to see a few more of you guys dont at our next event on lake neppesing.

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It was a good tourney. ABA runs a good shop. Like Madman said, there was a good turnout. I ended up catching a limit, but had 2 breakoffs and had three fish come unbuttoned at the boat that would have helped. I ended up in 8th with 10.12. Another poster here Jose Garza took 2nd among the CAST fishermen as well as big bass for that group.
 

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Thanks Jeff,

Ok here are the results from Sunday's event.

It was a solid turnout with a bunch of new members coming out. This caused a small delay but the event went fairly smooth.

First of all I want to thank all of you for coming out.

I also want to thank Wayne Carpenter for his donation and sponsorship. You can check out Wayne's products at
Click Here He's got some great products.

37 Members came out and here is the top 15.

1 Mike Rochon 14 lbs 3 oz
2 Nick Ryan 13lbs 7oz
3 Jason Drake 12lbs 15oz
4 Scott Richmond 12lbs 7oz
5 Ryan Said 12lbs 6oz
6 Billy Tanner 12lbs 4 oz
7 James Laginess 10lbs 15 oz
8 Jeff Cheetam 10lbs 12oz
9 Andy Nowyorkas 10lbs 4oz
10 Tim Schmitz 9lbs 12oz
11 Doug Ward 7lbs 11oz
12 Brain McCarter 7 lbs 2oz
13 Anthony Adams 4 lbs 8oz
14 Philip Borsa 4lbs 4 oz
15 Grant Shively 3lbs

Big Bass = Mike Rochon 3lbs 13 oz

We also had 4 C.A.S.T. Members come out for this event.

1 Brian Mauzy 7lbs 0 oz
2 Daniel Medore 1lbs 1oz
3 Jose Garza 5lbs 1oz
4 Ryan Scott 2lbs 9 oz
 

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Hello new member here,

I heard about this site from another angler at the ABA tournament yesterday so I thought I would check it out.

I've been tournament fishing a long time and I have never seen a tournament director like the one I met this weekend.

Anthony put together a great show. The way he answered questions, gave instructions, and talked about his sponsors was amazing to me. I thought he did a great job. I have never seen a director go into such details about his sponsors and their products. I had a chance to talk to him for a few minutes before the start of the tournament, I told him I didn't do very well prefishing and he told me to throw an orange or red rattletrap. Being a tubeman by nature I decided to stick with tubes and I was having a tough time of it. I decided to take Anthony's advice a little to late and put a red trap on. I nailed one fish on it and lost another. I regret not listening to him.

The members in the ABA are friendly, outgoing and helpfull. I had a great time and really enjoyed it. Nice group of people.

Thanks Anthony!
 

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hey tubeman,

welcome to the site. and thanks for the nice words you said about our club. which one are you? i met two guys yesterday from the net. i think there may have been more. anthony and i talked about this before the tourney but with everything that was happening that morning and afternoon, i think it slipped his mind. but we want to find out what lscn members we have fishing with us. it would be a great way for members to finally meet and be able to put a face with the names we see here everyday.

anyway. great to have you as a member here and with aba.

madman himself
 
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