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I ran across this and thought I'd pass it along. I guess Michigan is not #1 anymore.
Lets hope once the auto ind. turns around we change that.


http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/index.html#b...upcaliforniano1

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Boat registrations up; California No. 1

Michigan's long-standing position as the nation's top boating state has been wrested away by California.

Coast Guard boat registration statistics distributed today by the National Marine Manufacturers Association show boat ownership on the rise nationally, with 13 million boats registered in 2002 - an increase of 154,000, or 1.2 percent, from the previous year.

In actuality, ownership well exceeds the 13 million figure, according to Jim Petru, NMMA's director of market statistics. "Many small, nonpowered craft such as canoes and utility boats are not required to be registered by many states, or are simply not registered by owners," Petru said in a statement.

Michigan was bumped to the number two ranking by a slim margin - 1,051,606 boats for California; 1,000,337 for Michigan. In other changes, Wisconsin claims the number five position from Texas, which drops to sixth; Louisiana jumps two places to number 13, bumping Missouri and Georgia to 14th and 15th, respectively; and Tennessee and Virginia move up to 19 and 20, respectively.

Here's the top 20:

1. California 1,051,606 11. Pennsylvania 357,729
2. Michigan 1,000,337 12. North Carolina 353,625
3. Florida 922,597 13. Louisiana 327,272
4. Minnesota 834,974 14. Missouri 325,717
5. Wisconsin 650,280 15. Georgia 325,135
6. Texas 624,390 16. Washington 266,717
7. New York 529,732 17. Alabama 264,191
8. Ohio 413,276 18. Tennessee 259,235
9. Illinois 398,431 19. Virginia 243,590
10. South Carolina 83,971 20. Mississippi 199,037

The largest increase in percentage terms was Wisconsin, which jumped 12.9 percent over its 2001 figures. The biggest loser was Mississippi, which dropped a startling 33.9 percent. However, NMMA says a representative of Mississippi's Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks "suggests registrations may have been compiled incorrectly in the past, and that the 2002 data is correct."

The top 20 states account for 9.7 million boats - nearly 75 percent of the national total, NMMA says. The top 10 states had 52 percent of the total, or 6.8 million boats.

NMMA says data compiled by Statistical Surveys Inc. on new powerboat registrations for 44 of the 50 states (about 96 percent of the U.S. market) show 233,000 new (model year 2002) powerboats registered by the states during the year.
 

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California may be a bigger state, but we still have more coastline than any other state.
 

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You also have to keep in mind that CA has such high taxes on cars & boat reg. that a lot of owners reg there boats in AZ or other surrounding states. We could be a lot further behind than we know.
 

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Are you surprised? With all the morons in the USA today buying Toyota's and Honda's, the amount of people working in Michigan (and the whole USA manufacuring) is hurting. My guess is that the boat registration in Japan is on the rise, thanks to many stupid Americans buying Japanese and Korean cars!
 

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Wow tell us how you really feel!

LOL

But, I have to agree somewhat. Alot of that could translate not only from cars but to something that hits close to us, fishing tackle.

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Not just Honda's and Toyotas are built elsewhere. Every US nameplate has some degree of foreigh part content, and it's on the rise. Other parts of the of the stuff we buy (like engineering) are also goign overseas at an increasing rate. Who will buy all this stuff when nobdy has a good job?
 

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QUOTE(bassabductor @ Jan 25 2004, 03:20 PM)Not just Honda's and Toyotas are built elsewhere. Every US nameplate has some degree of foreigh part content, and it's on the rise. Other parts of the of the stuff we buy (like engineering) are also goign overseas at an increasing rate. Who will buy all this stuff when nobdy has a good job?

I agree....

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QUOTE(bassabductor @ Jan 25 2004, 03:20 PM)Not just Honda's and Toyota's are built elsewhere. Every US nameplate has some degree of foreign part content, and it's on the rise. Other parts of the of the stuff we buy (like engineering) are also going overseas at an increasing rate. Who will buy all this stuff when nobody has a good job?

Not only does it take away from our own people, but the pride of driving a American made vehicle is gone, too.

When I bought my dodge hemi truck I felt like a trader in a way cuz the engine is built down in Mexico.

To topic....For as small as our lake is, I think Ex-Al is right
Besides, I think we enjoy it much more than others because of our short season.

Max.....just look at SunBum's....You are probably a bit right with that thought.
 

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Well one thing that you can say about boats is that there almost all made in the good old US of A. Or at least all the boats I like are.
 

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QUOTE(rerun @ Jan 26 2004, 08:54 AM)Well one thing that you can say about boats is that there almost all made in the good old US of A. Or at least all the boats I like are.
So are most of the components....

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QUOTE(bassabductor @ Jan 25 2004, 04:20 PM)Not just Honda's and Toyotas are built elsewhere. Every US nameplate has some degree of foreigh part content, and it's on the rise. Other parts of the of the stuff we buy (like engineering) are also goign overseas at an increasing rate. Who will buy all this stuff when nobdy has a good job?

The question is how to stop this dealing with global economy. ( working only one way) For example : Huydai is selling a lot of his cars her but we can`t even sell one car in Korea ( goverment regulation)
 

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QUOTE(Madmax @ Jan 26 2004, 10:51 AM)QUOTE(bassabductor @ Jan 25 2004, 04:20 PM) Not just Honda's and Toyotas are built elsewhere. Every US nameplate has some degree of foreigh part content, and it's on the rise. Other parts of the of the stuff we buy (like engineering) are also goign overseas at an increasing rate. Who will buy all this stuff when nobdy has a good job?

The question is how to stop this dealing with global economy. ( working only one way) For example : Huydai is selling a lot of his cars her but we can`t even sell one car in Korea ( goverment regulation)
Hyundia sell a lot of cars in the US (400,000). And their cars are junk! People buy them because they are cheap (and not bad looking). We need to make our voices heard. If we keep buying foreign cars, we are all in trouble (even people who don't work directly for the Big 3). It will be real hard to boat working at Wendy's.
 

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WOW
time to get my 2 cents in. Now that you've mentioned it (and this is my opinion of course), the USA created its own problems, and it is in so much denial, it can not see its mistakes. Thus here is where I start digging. Unions run the industry
, Unions cry for more raises- healthcare- breaks- vacations- more raises. Then those that get their way, put out a less than perfect product prone to countless recalls. Then these companies raise their prices to cover their butts for their own mistakes. Did I mention alcoholism and drugs in the workplace ? This makes for a dishonest, deceitful, lazy, and a non-productive workforce, not to mention delirious and violence prone. Yet this is only the beginning of the snowball effect, the tip of the iceberg if you will. Now to throw in some other industries that compliment this technologically advanced nation into modern chaos. Healthcare, Energy, Pornography, Alcohol, Media, Sports (oh forgot to mention the tabacco companies too, but I just happen to be a smoker, and I do justify my coping tool by saying, "I can still smoke 10 cigarettes and get behind the wheel of a car, and not kill someone"). Sorry folks, for my spouting like a raging idiot, but back to the topic at hand, was why citizens are buying foreign vehicles in lieu of US made products, and why are our products so flawed. Is because this is the biggest-baddest country to exist in modern times, and the USA has an undeniable chip on its shoulder, many may think our feces don't stink (I truly beg to differ). Those that are all hyped up on the property & prestige, can't even comprehend what really could've evolved after last years blackout that occurred, had it happened nationwide. And just imagine, if the power had still been out to this day. Chaos, Yes undeniable chaos (hmmm, just like the Y2K phenomenon). Okey-dokey, I had done enough ranting, I'll jump off my soapbox with one more comment. "If you're not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem". Where is paradise ? "Michigan" I say......."Car per deim".
 

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This topic should go to LCS Boathouse. Looks like some people are not interesting about future of this country ( refering to some stupid topics in boathouse , just like from kindergarten). I hope we will not become the second Roman Empire.
 

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I'm all about buying American (license plate says riceatr). Sure, labor is way to expensive here now, but you can't go blaming all our problems on the unions. Is it wrong for them to want to be well compensated for what they do? They see the CEO's making millions and millions of dollars a year, why can't the people that actually do the grunt work make some decent money?

A majority of the problem is the competition from other countries. If an auto supplier or manufacturer wants to compete, they are forced to move operations out of the US now, simply because labor is so expensive. Sure, the unions are part of why labor is so expensive, but does anyone here want to reduce their standard of living in order to keep their job? Why not just jack up the price of importing the products of that foriegn labor to the point where there is no competitive advantage in employing people overseas? Charge tariffs on everything made by foriegn hands, based on how much that work cost the company. Allow an exemption, if a company can show it paid the foriegn worker as much as it would cost to employ an American worker, let them slide on the tariffs. The logic behind free trade is based on developing new markets... wouldn't forcing manufacturers to over pay for foriegn labor accomplish that much quicker?

BTW, new guy here. I've cruised around here before, but this is the first time i signed up and posted. Saw a lakestclair.net sticker on the back of a beat-up astro van today and decided to come by and check it out again. Nice first post, eh?
 

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Michigan is still #1. California count was incorrect.

Jeff Hoedt, chief of the Coast Guard's Program Management Division, said the error - reporting 1,000,337 instead of 896,090 for California - occurred in his office.

"Due to the unique way that California submitted its registered boat data, the number of personal watercraft was duplicated in the total," Hoedt said. "With California's assistance, we have corrected the error."

See the following:

http://www.thelog.com/news/newsview.asp?c=94026
 
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