I have Dave Richey the old Detroit News Sports Writer Weds and his Twin George on the 22nd (There Birthday). I will let you know how they make out. I think we will try Grassy the next few days. I have heard it has turned on. Gregg M and I were out Sunday morning we had 6 fish up and each landed one. Of course Gregg's was the biggest so it cost me $5 buck's again.