The good old days

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traveler

Discussion Starter · Feb 15, 2004

Have been listening to a lot of old stuff lately. Really enjoying listening to some old Zeppelin, The Who, of course Aerosmith, Seger, Floyd, good seventies stuff.

Am I wrong or just outdated when I say that music was so much more intricate and a true art form in those days. With all the chord, tempo changes and real thought that seems to have gone into the lyrics it seems like the music was something you could really relate to and sit and enjoy even if you were alone. Even some of the heavier bands like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest (despite the fact that Dave Holland got sent to jail for trying to rape a 17 year old retarded boy) had some real musicianship driving their tunes. Maybe I just don't get it, but I don't think todays music has as much thought behind it. It's just crap put together for the mindless masses who wouldn't know any better.

Remember smoking a fatty and sitting in my room and really getting into listening to music. A good album was almost like a rollercoaster. By the end of it you would really run the gamut of emotions.

Was just wondering, for the serious music fans which bands and albums really got you going? What do you remember as being some really life-changing or at least enhancing stuff. For me it was Pink Floyd, The Who, and Led Zeppelin. The albums I listened to endlessly were, Animals (you better watch out, there may be dogs about), The Wall, Quadrophenia, Who's Next?, The entire Zeppelin collection (but loved Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffitti especially). Also Iron Maiden "Number of the Beast".

Got to thinking about this when I heard Zeppelin "10 Years Gone" the other day. Going to go pick up CD Physical Graffitti today. Saw Page Plant about 5 years ago and was just in a trance when they sang "Ramble On"!! Good Stuff!! Am I alone in this opinion??

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Kat

· #2 · Feb 15, 2004

No, it's definetly not wrong. It means that you are showing appreciaton and giving credit where credit is due.
Back then everyone wrote thei own music and could sing. Unlike these monotone singers now. People had talents and were able to not only write but they were also able to sing diffferent pitches and notes. Now a days everything sounds the same because there is no talent. KInd of like what Rush was back then.
Also, too much repitition.

Snowbi-Wan

· #3 · Feb 15, 2004 (Edited by Moderator)

QUOTE(traveler @ Feb 15 2004, 01:11 PM)Am I wrong or just outdated when I say that music was so much more intricate and a true art form in those days.
No, you're just listening to the wrong new stuff.

I listen to a lot of bands that were influenced by the likes of Rush, Pink Floyd, etc. You've probably never heard of most of them because WRIF doesn't play them.

If you're interested, I could give you a list of bands to check out. Let me know.

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traveler

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 15, 2004

QUOTE(Snowmaker @ Feb 15 2004, 01:40 PM)QUOTE(traveler @ Feb 15 2004, 01:11 PM) Am I wrong or just outdated when I say that music was so much more intricate and a true art form in those days.
No, you're just listening to the wrong new stuff.

I listen to a lot of bands that were influenced by the likes of Rush, Pink Floyd, etc. You've probably never heard of most of them because WRIF doesn't play them.

If you're interested, I could give you a list of bands to check out. Let me know.
Give it up Snowi- would like to hear it!!

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traveler

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 15, 2004

QUOTE(Kat @ Feb 15 2004, 01:27 PM)No, it's definetly not wrong. It means that you are showing appreciaton and giving credit where credit is due.
Back then everyone wrote thei own music and could sing. Unlike these monotone singers now. People had talents and were able to not only write but they were also able to sing diffferent pitches and notes. Now a days everything sounds the same because there is no talent. KInd of like what Rush was back then.
Also, too much repitition.
Interesting that you should bring up different pitches as I was listening to some early Robert Plant and thinking that same thing. He was way up in pitch for the first album ie. Communication Breakdown, and on later albums ran his voice way up and down the scale. Saw a top 25 vocalists of all time on VH1 and he wasn't even on the list!! Blew my mind.

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Snowbi-Wan

· #6 · Feb 15, 2004 (Edited by Moderator)

QUOTE(traveler @ Feb 15 2004, 02:53 PM)Give it up Snowi- would like to hear it!!

My first recommendation would be Ayreon. All the music/lyrics are written by just one guy (Arjen Anthony Lucassen) and then he brings in guest vocalists/musicians from other bands. His stuff ranges from mellow Pink Floyd to later Beatles to good heavy rock. [TIP: When in his Download section, start with the tracks that say they are either from Into the Electric Castle, Flight of the Migrator, or The Dream Sequencer. Those are his best ones. His side project Star One is also really good, which you will also find samples of on his site.]

http://www.ayreon.com/home/index.php

Another is a band that I've already mentioned several times on here, Symphony X. They're from Jersey.

http://www.symphonyx.com/index2.html

And lastly, I'd suggest the band Vanden Plas from Germany. Similar sounding to Dream Theater (who I'm hoping you already know of), but a little more melodic.

[side note: They're the band I got the name Snowmaker from. They have a song called Rainmaker. ]

http://www.vandenplas.de/

Try those three for now. All their sites should have sound samples.

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Snowbi-Wan

· #7 · Feb 17, 2004

TTT

fatcat660

· #8 · Feb 17, 2004

Hey Traveler
I agree with you big time Pink Floyd Umagooma (sp) and the Wall did it for me, also all of the bands you named with the addition of Neil Young. I too was at the Plant and Page show what a night that was

I think there is good music out there it is just not what is popular these days. BTW my son is 11 and he loves the music we do and some of the newer stuff he listens to is pretty cool. I took him to see Blue Oyster Cult, Foghat, Mountain, BB King, Fabulous Thunderbirds and Creed. That was just in the past year

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DawnieDawn

· #9 · Feb 17, 2004 (Edited by Moderator)

You are so right on Trav! I love Zepplin! I love all that music from that time!! Kind of like feel good kind of music, you know what I mean!

Rolling Stones
Janis
Guess Who
Aero
Led
Who
America...

Rock and Roll will never die!

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RED HOT ONE

· #10 · Feb 17, 2004

Those bold break through super artist of the seventies were awesome......

Without them where would we be now.???? The problem now is some of the junk I

hear now is also being call break through....Break through to what I have no

idea?????????

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Sheik

· #11 · Feb 17, 2004

The 60's and 70's gave us some great musicians. My favourite has to be The Beatles.

I do agree to one extent that many of today hits are not all that talented. There is all kinds of great music to be found out there, probably not in the typical top 40 countdown.

BTW, I am trying to learn a sweet song on my acoustic guitar by Zep, Over the Hills and Far Away. great tune

Mr. Big

· #12 · Feb 17, 2004

I'll have to chime in on this one. I agree with Snowi. The good music IS out there, but it's harder to find. One really has to 'look outside the box' and explore to find the good stuff. Do yourself a favor and throw your car stereo out the window, that sh*t is dribble for the mindless. How many times can somebody listen to 'Crazytrain'???? I find a lot of the music I like, on my satelite music channels. A majority of the musicians I've never even heard of quite often have the best music. I would list some names, but quite honestly I can't seem to remember any.

On another note, I certainly agree that Floyd, Led Zep, and other music from that era IS truly awesome. Maybe it was just luck that some of those great bands were discovered and not buried by bullsh*t commercial playlists that radio stations have now. The music IS out there, good luck to all on finding it.

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Snowbi-Wan

· #13 · Feb 17, 2004

I've given a few suggestions. Let me know if more are needed.

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traveler

Discussion Starter · #14 · Feb 17, 2004

Just trying to figure out who's music could possibly stand the test of time and be thought of as "Classic" in the future. Can't think of anything from the 80's and 90's with any real staying power or that our kids could discover and enjoy. Nostalgic yes, relevant "No"

Snowbi-Wan

· #15 · Feb 17, 2004

QUOTE(traveler @ Feb 17 2004, 11:18 AM)Just trying to figure out who's music could possibly stand the test of time and be thought of as "Classic" in the future. Can't think of anything from the 80's and 90's with any real staying power or that our kids could discover and enjoy. Nostalgic yes, relevant "No"
I think bands like Metallica, Iron Maiden, and Judas Priest might.

Glam metal was good, but I'm not sure Cherry Pie or Talk Dirty To Me will be considered "Classic Rock".

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