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I got a hunch we'll be attacking Iraq soon. Ill be flying my flag high. Have always since I moved out when I was 18. Im hearing about more n more people form our area, related to my wifes work as well as THIS VERY SITE. Well theres alot of locals going over seas to fight the good fight. God Bless'em.

I will participate in any ideas we have to show support.
 

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Thats why I switched my avatar CBJ....

GBA! Where else can one get paid to chase little green and brown fish around?

I thank and support all the men and women willing to die to protect our rights and freedom.

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How about we support them by bringing them home? What are we going to do? Fight terrorists here in the USA, confront the evil Saddam there, chase Bin Laden around the mountains in Pakistan or wherever he is, and oh yeah lets reignite a 50 year old truce in Korea(which my father fought in).
I think were gonna piss off alot of muslims even more and possibly wreck and already very poor world economy.
May be playing devils advocate here just to get a debate going here - no war for oil!

PS: I'm guessing we'll attack when we get the new moon.

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Hey D,

#1 - lets take the fight to THEM, in THEIR country, where THEY live, so our families can be safe in our homes.

#2 - the TRUCE you speak of is not a truce, the "Korean War" your father fought in ended in a cease-fire, not a truce. There have been American soldiers killed every year in the region by snipers since the "cease-fire."

#3 - historically war has ALWAYS improved the economy, WW2 brought us out of the Great Depression

I appreciate your opinions, but get your facts straight
 

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We should bring them home, that is only when the JOB is complete!

The World seems to find it hard to like us, that is until they need our help. The people from France, Norway,Germany, Russia, the Kurds, general population in Iraq and Christian Arabs all of these past and present people needed assistance from our GREAT NATION.

I don't approve of war, but it is necessary to keep world peace. The idea of us wasting BILLIONS of dollars and countless AMERICAN men and women for oil is silly. The funds spent to help things in the Middle East could be sent to South America to settle the unrest there. I don't remember the amount of oil they produce, but we really don't need the Middle East with their price fixing!

I am proud to be an American, I will fly Ole Glory proudly at every event, I will play the National Anthem with my hat removed and I will pray for our men and women in the armed services and I will pray that our President has the strength (mentally and physically) to lead our nation by example.

America BASHERS go elsewhere! That is until your people or causes need assistance from us, then of course, war is a worthy thing to do.

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Medic1,

Thanks for your input, your examples were perfect! The examples are many fold and could burn up hours of time. The easy way would to ask these people to re-read a history book to see the "Evil" we have triumphed over. But then agian nothing in life is easy.

GOD BLESS AMERICA and Bless those that really don't understand!

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D

If you think this action is about oil your very misunderstood.

It's about a way of life. Do you want to panic every time a plane crashes or there is a fire in New York. It's time to end the terrorist threat so we can live without the fear that some radical is going to change our way of living.

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very well said Doug
 

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Thanks Stevie1,

I was sent an email about such issues. If only I could think long and hard enough, I would post the email sent. Does anyone out there have the ability to explain it in a simple way so I could post the email?

Doug
 

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My son-in-law left for overseas 40 days ago on a ship out of California a Marine with 12 years of service landed on shore messed up his back lost all feeling in his legs on I-V for the pain so ask me what I think about all this it all sucks.
 

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Having been in battle I feel for the men and women going over there it is scary to say the least. The American fighting forces have been giving their all since we became a country. At times the only way to fight terror is with terror. The people that don't want the war are the ones most helped by it most of the time. War is hell believe me. Bob
 

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No matter what from 9/11 on we will be living with fear. It wont stop me from doing the things I do. Weather we attach Iraq or not. We will still have a problem with terrorism. F&^K the middle east they hate us already and always will. There gov. are corrupt, the people dont have a clue about anything cuz there media is controlled by there Gov.

Im am all for getting rid of Saddam and helping Iraq become ajkehf/ you know what. F*&K Iraq as well. Were not going there for Oil were not going there for the people Were going there, to bring the fight to them and get rid of Saddam. Bush said if you harbor or help a terrorist your just as giulty as the terrorist. Saddam buys homes for the familys of Suiccide bombers. We all know he helps Terrorists. All he has to do is give a Shampoo bottle of mustard gas or what ever else he has to some terrorist and 2 months later we have another 9/11.

The world is only so big and we all have to live here. Having people like Saddam in charge of a hole country will make that dificult and indanger alot of humans.
 

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D-if we wanted their oil we would have taking it in Desert Storm. We want Saddam to be dead and Iraq to be safer for the human race. If you got something negative about this

START YOUR OWN THREAD!!!! THIS ONES ALL PRO USA!!!!
 

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Hey folks....what does any of this have to do with fishing???? lol

Lighten up all, the more you argue about it the less likely I will let it go on. I want everyone to have fun and catch some fish....have a few laughs....

GBA

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Sorry about the off topic reply John, however it was posted on this forum.

And to CBJ - well this is (or I thought) a forum for discussion. Please don't question my love for this country based on one post. If you want a flame war my email is available I'm sure on this site;

As the muskie man said -
Peace.............
 

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Terrorists work psychologically on those they want to harm by placing fear and terror in the countries masses and terrorism has absolutely no boundaries. 9-11 had to wake-up the peaceful people of this great nation. It was conscientiously planned, well thought out and brilliantly executed with unparalleled precision by cowards. Yet for many, we forget too soon. Why? Because the person, fireman, cop or military prson that was lost was not a blood relative of the individual questioning our direction. Sure they were an American but not a family member!
Third world countries recognize they cannot take this great nation's weaponry on, in a one on one fight. Our technology is light years ahead of anything and far more superior that any other country on this globe is able to produce or sell to them. However terrorists, if they hit the countries masses at regular planned intervals, the fear, chaos and disruption it will create has the potential to bring that giant to it's knees in chaos, economical disaster and fear by the masses. How many individuals asked how this could happen in our country and why didn't the government know of it or take defensive action?
I know of no one who watched the tragedy that abruptly ended so many innocent peoples lives who did nothing wrong except go about living their daily lives in a normal American way under the given freedoms in what was thought to be the safety of America who didn't feel remorse. Who wasn't appalled or didn't shed a tear at what they saw, not to mention the other thousands of family members who's impact was felt through the loss of loved ones? Even the faithful servants whose jobs and training to save lives were not prepared for the carnage the disaster inflected. They gave the ultimate sacrifice!
Support and stand behind our countries leadership! Screw the debates our press love to infuse in nightly news broadcasts. They pathetically switch sides just to keep momentum going and add interest to the broadcast reacting with sensationalism as the wind blows. Why? It's nothing but a marketing ploy to get more viewers watching their broadcasts nightly or purchasing more publications of their sad a$$ views or twisted paper. You don't have to stand totally behind everything our government and it's policy proposes. That is one of the greatest single factors of your bought freedom given to you by those who sacfriced it all for your lifestyle and handed to you free of charge because your an American. Iraq citizens don't have that freedom nor do most any third world countries. Your killed or incarcerated for views not in total support of the government.
Pure and simple PSYCHOLOGICAL FEAR is what works and is being marketed by terrorists. Packaged in explosives, biological, chemical and other forms of mass destruction delivered at any time 24-7 on your door step C.O.D. It works well, doesn't take a batallion of people and costs considerably less to execute than our enormious defense budget to enable Freedom. Can you remember the apprehension of carrying out your day to day activities as 9-11 unfolded? The presence of extreme anxiety in the days after the Trade Center Towers laid in rubble and the Pentagon was gashed open with a comerically owned american aircraft filled with American citizens blood and dead bodies? Sadly however, human nature and time softened the atrocities that occurred and the mass has begun to once again question government policy because nothing seemed to be occurring that was or is linked to terrorism. Terrorism is a nebulous weapon not seen until after the devastation is dealt, only targeting the masses of powerful nations who can't be brought down by standard weaponry. It is a slow cynical, methodically ugly process delivered in many different ways always against the peaceful innocent population at large over a prolonged period of time. It is aided and fueled by the media who reports what isn't being done in defense and deplicts the carnage of what occured, dividing normally rational people to align in causes that undermine governance principals. Would your thoughts change if three of you family members or blood relatives were lost in a disaster like 9-11?
The freedom you and I enjoy has been paid for throughout our countries history by blood, death and sacrifice of our loved ones. It's a horrorible cause to maintain the end effect of freedom. The strategic war plan of weak third world dictators and madmen has undoubtedly changed across the globe called earth, our country's course has also had to change on how we will conduct our lives and protect our soil. The vulnerability terrorist's targeted made the point clear. Do we want to sit and wait until they are on our homeland soil or do we deal with them on theirs before they get a chance to align and unify as a coalition?
Until you feel the deep pain of a loved ones death paid in their ultimate sacrifice in defense of our country and our freedom or walked the battle field looking at the strewn mangled bodies of your dead buddies, you will never fully absorb how precious and very painful the "United" in our great country's name is. They were willing to give everything to protect you, you were brothers and will alway remain that. In that moment all you had was each other, fear & each others dependence on a strong will to live and protect each other doing whatever it took.

God bless this countries leadership and each and every man and women who has taken the oath to protect and defend it for everyone including the couch quarterbacks who lay their heads down every night in the freedom of this great nation's arms only to wake and discredit or question its direction and defense strategy. They don't have a clue who keeps their freedom alive. I honor those who gave their all and continue to defend OUR freedom and I'm greatful of every person who has made the defense of our country (in any capacity) their career every day I get out of bed. A greatful person supporting a greatful nation.
 

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That has to be the longest post in the fishing board....well said.

D, lets let it go.

All......lets get back to fishing talk.....

I think I am going to close this tread tomorrow. I will give everyone a chnce to reply before doing so. I imagine I will close it sometime late Sunday (when I get done plowing) and we can start off next week Monday with renewed vigor about FISHING topics....lol

I hope every one is safe and warm.

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