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My guess is oil starvation due to sludge blocking oil passages to bearings, spun bearing(s). Going 30,000 miles on factory fill has to say something though!! Especially a rental (beaten on, abused, etc..)
 

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QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My guess is oil starvation due to sludge blocking oil passages to bearings, spun bearing(s). Going 30,000 miles on factory fill has to say something though!! Especially a rental (beaten on, abused, etc..)
As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?
 

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QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 2 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My guess is oil starvation due to sludge blocking oil passages to bearings, spun bearing(s). Going 30,000 miles on factory fill has to say something though!! Especially a rental (beaten on, abused, etc..)
As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?




 

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QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 2 2009, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?


My god, the Oil Life Monitor reminder on the dash must have been screaming

I dont ever let my Envoy get below 50% ... ok once I let it get down to 25% (8000 miles) on Amsoil. Then again, the Envoy has a 7 qt sump, not sure what the Outlook has.
 

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QUOTE(Chefnutz @ Jul 2 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 2 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My guess is oil starvation due to sludge blocking oil passages to bearings, spun bearing(s). Going 30,000 miles on factory fill has to say something though!! Especially a rental (beaten on, abused, etc..)
As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?







thats not the right answer?
 

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QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 2 2009, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?


My god, the Oil Life Monitor reminder on the dash must have been screaming

I dont ever let my Envoy get below 50% ... ok once I let it get down to 25% (8000 miles) on Amsoil. Then again, the Envoy has a 7 qt sump, not sure what the Outlook has.

Thumbs Up! Fresh oil is happy oil!


QUOTE(itstyme2change @ Jul 2 2009, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Chefnutz @ Jul 2 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 2 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My guess is oil starvation due to sludge blocking oil passages to bearings, spun bearing(s). Going 30,000 miles on factory fill has to say something though!! Especially a rental (beaten on, abused, etc..)
As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?







thats not the right answer?


No it's not. I was making a joke about how some seem to treat the oil light. It's not a "add some oil when you get a chance" light, it's a "stop NOW or your engine is toast" light!
 

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CLEAR UP:

The "oil light", the red oil can with oil drops coming from it, is NOT an indicator of oil level. Never was, never has, never will.
 

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QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>CLEAR UP:

The "oil light", the red oil can with oil drops coming from it, is NOT an indicator of oil level. Never was, never has, never will.
Yes! Roughly equivalent to your heart stopping. Not something you should put off attending to.
 

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QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>CLEAR UP:

The "oil light", the red oil can with oil drops coming from it, is NOT an indicator of oil level. Never was, never has, never will.

Well if you burned up all the oil you will have no oil pressure
30,000 miles is a helluva long time, that engine had to sound terriffic!!
 

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I've heard of these stories before. Damn thats hard on the eyes!
 

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also LEASE cars returns

do you think that all people that LEASE cars say for two years or so are actually doing 3000 mile oil changes

someone i know had a three year lease, 36K miles, changed it once at 15K and once right before they turned it in......
 

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QUOTE(Away Point @ Jul 2 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 2 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My guess is oil starvation due to sludge blocking oil passages to bearings, spun bearing(s). Going 30,000 miles on factory fill has to say something though!! Especially a rental (beaten on, abused, etc..)
As long as the oil light on the dash doesn't come on, all is well, right?



light ?? what light ??? there's a light ??


like I tell the hub...."gauges are for guys"
 

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Good news is: If you are going to buy an off-lease vehicle, you can easily acquire the vehicles service history at the dealer (assuming service was performed at a GM service center)...

I bought my Envoy, it was an off lease. Before I bought it, I went over to Causleys and had a buddy in the service department print up a service history. It showed 3-4,000 mile oil changes, transmission service, some warranty work, and all recalls closed (performed), and other maintenace items taken care of on time.

A rare occurrence, Im sure!!
 

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The car I just replaced was a 1996 Mercury Villager. It died at 350,000 miles.

I bought it with 140,000 miles. I changed the oil maybe every 10 - 15,000 miles. I did not change the oil the last 50,000 miles. Probably could have kept it longer if I did.

Matt
 

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QUOTE(Goose @ Jul 2 2009, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(tcg @ Jul 2 2009, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I did not change the oil the last 50,000 miles. Probably could have kept it longer if I did.

Matt

why would you do that???


That sludge was holding it together and it did make it to 350,000 miles.

Matt
 
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