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what does everyone think about the baiting ban??? I for one am against the ban. where i mainly hunt at is state land (bAld mt. area) i have limited time for deer hunting because of work and wife and stuff like that..
i normally get a deer every year for bow.
i even pass on deer . until last year i seen 1 single deer in range and it wasnt till gun season when i seen one (witch i shot) but anyway ive been in the same spot for years in an old orchid then last year i had 6 people within 70 yrds of me all season
even more for gun..i think with bait it kind of spreds the deer hunters out on state land. thats just my $.02
 

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I think baiting is fine, I don't have the time to follow patterns and track, and all the b.s. Am I less of a hunter for it?? I hope not. I don't mind supplimental feeding and food plots either, but on the other hand I see no reason for people to put out 2 dump trucks of carrots and apples, that is just rediculious.
 

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Just my preference... but if I had to vote, I say "no bait". I have no problem if other people want to hunt over bait though. I really don't gun hunt, only bow hunt and part of the thrill of the chase for me is planning and strategizing the right place to setup and still getting deer in close and personal. My personal preference is that when I setup and have a deer come in, it becomes a better hunt for me, rather than feeling like that deer only came in for a meal. Like I said just my preference......
 

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Ill smack the carrot out there mouth and have fun doing it.

It also helps the fawns if you don't shoot mom.

I can see an argument on no doe with fawns but for bucks and does without fawns i see 100% no problem with it.

But bait or no bait shooting a doe off fawns is bad stuff.

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It seems like baiting takes some of the sportsmanship out of it. I've never hunted deer in my life, but it seems to me that it's kind of like hunting at the zoo. The animals know where to get food, when to get it, and just walk up and BLAM. Some of the shows I see on TV have a dinner line of deer come in to feed out of those electronic feeders. To me, that's not hunting, it's harvesting.

All depends on why you're going I guess. If you want meat, bait. If you want to hunt, don't.

Again though, I've never once hunted deer so ... grain of salt
 

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I dont have any problem with baiting at all. I have in the past, but most of the time, I use scents. I have only shot one deer over a bait pile. That was a doe during bow season, hunting someone elses land. The bait pile was already there.
 

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There is a sign at my favorite Fun Shop that reads:

ATTENTION DEER
THIS IS NOT A BAIT PILE

This is a composte pile, do not eat.
Violators will be shot on sight.

It cracks me up everytime I see it
 

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QUOTE(BillBuster @ Jun 19 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ill smack the carrot out there mouth and have fun doing it.

It also helps the fawns if you don't shoot mom.

I can see an argument on no doe with fawns but for bucks and does without fawns i see 100% no problem with it.

But bait or no bait shooting a doe off fawns is bad stuff.

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if the fawns are big and strong enought to live on their own, then theres nothing wrong with it, but if they are still small, then you should pass.
 

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i dont have a problem with baiting and i only use bait around muzzle loader season because it keeps things interesting when its frigid and it lets me know how many deer i really have in my area. i never bait while bow hunting. i am against the bait ban because the deer was in a enclosed pen and out of how ever many were tested last year 0% were positive out of the wild deer heard. now if people dont like baiting for other reasons than that is all fine and dandy. i think that more hunters did drives to kill deer last year than baiting and shooting a deer on the run an often majority of the time versus standing is never a good idea. i am especially against supllemental feeding. but thats another story.
 

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QUOTE(soule @ Jun 20 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(BillBuster @ Jun 19 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ill smack the carrot out there mouth and have fun doing it.

It also helps the fawns if you don't shoot mom.
I can see an argument on no doe with fawns but for bucks and does without fawns i see 100% no problem with it.
But bait or no bait shooting a doe off fawns is bad stuff.
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if the fawns are big and strong enought to live on their own, then theres nothing wrong with it, but if they are still small, then you should pass.

If the fawns are 1 year old ill agree with you but if they are from that spring ill disagree with you.
We have new conditions in the state that we have not seen in our lifetime and that the massive explosion of the coyote population. Field and Stream Just had an article that shows that the coyote is the number one reason for deer mortality in the first year of life in areas with a coyote population.
Ill need to get the article out for the proper number but thinking it indicated 2/3rd of all deaths are from the coyote. So it is very important we do not shoot Mom off the fawns in the first year as she is the best chance for there survival.
So to give you a parable!
Kids today need to be 18 and then we can send them on there way out in the world.
But some can make it and some cant some need to stay with mommy and daddy till there 24 tears old.
Now if we dropped that to lets say 13 the world would eat them up and spit them out much like the yearling fawn without a mom.
Remember this is just my opinion.
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QUOTE(BillBuster @ Jun 22 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(soule @ Jun 20 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(BillBuster @ Jun 19 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ill smack the carrot out there mouth and have fun doing it.

It also helps the fawns if you don't shoot mom.
I can see an argument on no doe with fawns but for bucks and does without fawns i see 100% no problem with it.
But bait or no bait shooting a doe off fawns is bad stuff.
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if the fawns are big and strong enought to live on their own, then theres nothing wrong with it, but if they are still small, then you should pass.

If the fawns are 1 year old ill agree with you but if they are from that spring ill disagree with you.
We have new conditions in the state that we have not seen in our lifetime and that the massive explosion of the coyote population. Field and Stream Just had an article that shows that the coyote is the number one reason for deer mortality in the first year of life in areas with a coyote population.
Ill need to get the article out for the proper number but thinking it indicated 2/3rd of all deaths are from the coyote. So it is very important we do not shoot Mom off the fawns in the first year as she is the best chance for there survival.
So to give you a parable!
Kids today need to be 18 and then we can send them on there way out in the world.
But some can make it and some cant some need to stay with mommy and daddy till there 24 tears old.
Now if we dropped that to lets say 13 the world would eat them up and spit them out much like the yearling fawn without a mom.
Remember this is just my opinion.
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i agree bb i will pass on a mother with fawns every time. But two years ago i had a very small yearling come to me every time i was there it would feed right under my tree stand look up at me just staring while it was feeding never once was it scared of me.This deer was smaller than average.I seen this same deer all throughout bow season. I never seen mommy once .So i figured that it was orphaned and malnourished.So i shot it right before gun season. this deer probably wouldn't have survived the winter.
But ill tell you what that was the best tasting deer i ever had it tasted like lamb...
 

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QUOTE(Big Dog @ Jun 22 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(BillBuster @ Jun 22 2009, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(Big Dog @ Jun 22 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE(BillBuster @ Jun 22 2009, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>#2 was orphaned in the field and stream article!

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