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I always hear everyone is catching walleye out in front of the 400 club, 10 to 14 feet of water. I have been fishing there the past 4 days and have only been able to pull-up a bunch of perch. I have been using crawler harnesses and crappie rigs with cawlers and minnows. Does anyone know what I can try to land a few walleye. Any help is appreciated.


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This is going to be lengthy because I'm going to copy and past this info for you. It's the same question I asked back in the spring and early summer and these are the answers that I got from the good fisherman here at LSCN.
Administration here at LSCN, If this is too lengthy please let me know and I will delete it Rich

Well I went out in the Lake today and caught a limit of chunky walleye. From
the 400 club to the spillway in 10ft of water following the color change. Used
crawler harnesses with gulp worms and Tail Dancers. Get out there and catch em!

Thanks. I gotta tell you those Gulp worms are the ticket. They catch fish like
crazy and NO DIRT IN THE BOAT! Heck I put them back in the bag when I was done.
Now get out there and catch some fish.
Yeah - don't leave any Gulp baits out of the bag when not using them - they dry
out like shoe leather.

Madwags what size and color of gulps were you using on the harnesses? I must
have about 10 different bags of gulp now but sure would make things easier if I
had the right combination going as soon as I hit the water.

I made it out yesterday too. Fished from 400 club towards Metro in same depth.
Partner and I picked up 7 nice walleye including a 6 lb spawned out female. We
also caught two really nice pike one going close to 15 lbs. Other fish included
3 perch, 2 sheephead a few smallies that went back unharmed and a few rock bass.
The water was really dirty in spots, but we still caught fish in it. All fish
taken on chartreusse harnesses.

I was using the regular night crawler type. They must be 6" in light brown
color. I have chartruese ones but didn't get bit on those. The crawler
harnesses were firetiger colors and chartruese. Also used Gulp minnows in dark
brown on some single hook harnesses. They look to be about 3". The key is
bright baits in 10' of dirty water from 400 club to metro. Now lets go catch
em. Any information on Houghton Lake for walleyes would be much appreciated.
Email me.

You may want to keep you Gulp in another bag after you have put it in the water.
Have been told that Gulp begins breaking down as soon as it gets wet, and it
will then start the process of breaking down the other baits in the package.

That's right 5-Alive, it even says on the package to not put used baits back in

h2o<---good advice that stuff is expensive.

What are these Gulp worms all about? Where can I pick some up at? How much are

Gulp is a new Berkley product, Bass Pro has it.

h2o<---says it's better than live bait. You can't do better than science.

I trolled with 2oz bottom bouncers on inline planers and 1.5 oz bottom bouncers
straight out the back. Used Tail Dancer cranks tied directly to the line with
no weight. Hot Mustard was a good color.

I went out Sunday and caught 7 eyes. Chartrueus Harnesses with 4" Gulp Minnows
in Pumpkin Seed Color. Looked like a parking lot out there. I know the MWT was
going on. but I am sure some of you guys were out too. How did everyone do.
We had a nice fish fry last night.

I was out in front of Gino's on Sunday and boated 7 eyes. All but one over 20"
with the largest at 26". This was in about 2 hours starting at 11am. A couple
of jumbo perch to boot.

We got 4 nice eaters yesterday. We also caught a few jumbo perch to ad to the
mix. Fishing seemed slow for the most part. I think that east wind shut things
down a little.

My partner and two others took a three man limit on Saturday.

Saw quite a few muskie hooked yesterday too. There's a ton of fish in that area
right now. You never know what's on the end of your line. What a great

We went out on Saturday afternoon and drifted from the Spillway
to the 400 club from 10-12ft. of water. Ended up catching a nice bluegill, 6
smallies and I don't know how many rock bass. Got back to the launch when
another boat came in with 8 nice walleye all taken from by Metro so apparently
the fish have moved up the lake a little from the Spillway.

Oh man Fit, you just missed some great seminars put on at Gander Mountain by
Lance Valentine covering all the angles on walleye fishing. I mentioned them a
while back in another thread. It was a series of six that he is doing of which
the first four are done.

He has a series of pamphlets that he put together that explain all of what he
covers in the seminars. If you come to the next seminar next Monday in Pontiac
at 6:00 you can probably buy them all. Not sure about that but you probably can.

Another possibility, you might try his website, [email protected], to see if
you can get some of the info.

I fish for walleye more than bass personally and love it. I have to say that I
learned a lot from him that should help me tweek my skills quite a bit.

I am not sure how big your Searay is but you definately need a way to control
your boat if you want to fish the rivers which is where most of my success has
been. I use an electric trolling motor on the bow of my boat and it is a must.
If you just want to fish the lake you can probably just drift but you are at the
mercy of the wind in direction and speed. But there is just so much to cover and
so many complexities that it would be impossible to even scratch the surface in
this thread. If you think that you have some idea of what you are doing and just
have some information you need clarified let me know and I would be happy to try
to help you out.


I thought I was the only one. I caught one Walleye by accident drifting the
North Channel last season! I gave up going out on the Detroit River because I
went out 4 or 5 times for Walleye and didn't get one. I didn't even get bit when
I was out casting at night this past fall.

Randy,....We'll go after some 'eyes this spring in the Detroit River when it
opens up...the best time will probably be late April...we're going to have a
late spring this year I think! I'm not a Walleye pro by any means,..but I can
catch 'em down there when the "run" is on,'s easy and fun!!! We'll hook
up after I get my new boat and go fill the 'wells!! LOL See ya soon.

I have to agree with Mac on this one. You don't have to be a walleye pro (I am
not) to catch them when they are easy in the spring on the Detroit River.
My favorite (and only) method is to vertical jig something, usually a ball jig
with a minnow on it although some plastics work well without live bait. I have
used spoons like the jig-a-whopper or that type of spoon with success.
I depend on my trolling motor to keep my line vertical, the straighter the
better. If you have trouble seeing your line, use flourescent line on the reel
down to a swivel then a clear drop line (1-2 ft) to the jig. It's amazing what
you can see happen before you feel it sometimes but this is most important for
the vertical factor. This also cuts down on your number of snags.
Good luck in the spring.

That's exactly right Topwater,.....I use a 1/2 or 3/4oz ball jig,....a 4" curly
tailed grub (colors vary depending on h2o clarity) and a lively 3-4" minnow
hooked "upside down"...that makes them squirm like crazy trying to "right"
themselves...I usually use pink, white, chartreuse and orange jigs......and
white or chartreuse grubs....but in all honesty,..I think the squirmin' minnow
is the reason for the strikes more often than the color of the jig/grub combo!
Just mix and match and play around with different combo's until you
connect.......but keeping your line as vertical as possible is deffinetely
critical with that type of presentation. It's a riot when your on fish can get a limit in a matter of minutes!! I love walleye fishin' when
it's easy like that,....but I love to bass fish ALL THE TIME!!!..LOL
Good luck..

The walleye's this year and most other are concentrated in the channels late
spring and early summer. Without exact boat control you'll never find them.

For your boat and the way you fish your best bet is Lake Erie. Limits were being
caught spring and through the summer within six miles of the shore from Flat
Rock to
Monroe. Find a pack , drift with a bottom bouncer or Erie Dearie and you'll
catch fish.

During the summer when it is nice and sunny and calm in the Bay as well as the
Lake go into 7 to 11 feet of water and drop anchor in the middle of the biggest
thickest Coontail Patch you can find and Jig. Minnows Mr Twisters whatever the
Walleye hold up in these weed beds all day. Bob

Looks like you are getting some great advice above TPF. All of what has been
said is right on the money. The river techniques probably will be your biggest
challenge without a trolling motor for controlling your drift to match the
current. It is absolutly essential to keep your line vertical when jigging for
feel of the bite and to prevent snagging.
I have drifted LSC withe crawler harnesses and have done quite well. I like
using a harness with a copper blade and red beads most of the time on a 3-way
swivel with a bottom bouncer. This can change depending on weather
conditions/sunlight. My most productive spot for this type of presentation has
been south of Metro Beach. There is usually a group of boats out there doing
just that.
It is also pretty good down by the Delphine Channel or the dumping grounds can
produce also.
But I really like the rivers. The Detroit is probably my fovorite. Conventional
jigging is used on it but the St Clair takes a presentation all its own durring
daylight. Most of the bait shops along the St Clair can tell it how it is done.
Ask what you need to "chug" and how to do it. But again, you need an electric
trolling motor to control boat drift. You might look into whether you can mount
one on the transom of your boat. This would not be optimum but might work. It
would have to have some power to be effective on your size boat. Just some
thoughts from an amateur who loves walleye fishing.

By the way, Mac is right about the spring on the river. It can be awsome if you
know what you are doing and can control you boat effectively. I get worked up
just thinking about it. In fact, I think I am going to go paint some jigs. Can't
have enough of them.


Perfect Fit, some good advice was given in here. I'll throw my $.02 as well. You
can never get enough.
What I like to do is listen to the Lakeside Tackle hotline to find out where the
Walleye are biting. That number is (586)777-7008. I have it on speed dial,
that's how often I call it in the Summer . It's never let me down, Capt. Dan
gets some damn good information on there(although he tends to be a bit obsessed
with Lake Simcoe).
Nevertheless he always has good information. I lake to put the boat
perpindicular to the wind direction, shut off the engine, pull the motor out of
the water, pop open a cold one, and just drift. Saves gas, saves aggravation,
and I almost always boat a Walleye or two. Plus I can sit down and take a load
off. That is after all, one of the aspects of fishing.
One last piece of advice, forget about Anchor Bay. Because of it's shallow
depth, it tends to be warmer than the main part of the lake. This warmer water
is ideal for Musky (or so I've heard), and some Northern Pike to an extent.
Myself I have NEVER caught a Walleye in there, and I've tried numerous times at
different times of the day, different times of the year throwing ever bait both
live and artificial imaginable....and NOTHING! I'm convinced no Walleye live
there. Although I could be wrong.
All I know is that when I fish south of Metro Beach all the way to 9 mile, I'm
usually in the garage filleting Walleye by the end of the day. Take it for what
it's worth.
Good luck.


Plenty of Walleye in the bay. Bob Brunner posted a great way to catch them now
that the water is clear.


perfect fit, I didn't see anyone suggest trolling with your big motor. I troll
alot on St. Clair when I want to locate fish. Try trolling crankbaits in the
river or on the lake. It takes a little time to learn what works. you will start
to see patterns develope, and your confidence will grow. Not to mention you will
catch a wide variety of fish in the proccess. Any time you are catching, it has
to be fun, exspecially for youngsters. Caution, there are some really big fish
out there, be prepared.

perfect fit, try trolling the lake as slow as your boat will troll pulling
crawler harnesses behind small (1/8 - 1/4 oz) bottom bouncers in 10 to 15 ft of
water. troll from metro all the way to the det river. If the water is clear stay
deeper. also there was good action about 3-5 miles east of the st clair light
alot last season. good luck

I once flipped an 8 lb walleye off the end of some wood ruins in Anchor Bay in
the middle of the summer at 1PM on a bright sunny day, flipping a tube for bass.
It was only 6 feet deep then.
I catch a lot of walleye just fishing for bass with tubes and crankbaits. They
seem to be all over the lake. Sometimes the shipping channel edge is lined with
them for miles from Russell Island all the way down past the Firecracker. I
mostly cast tubes, not drift. I dropped a camera into a weed bed last May along
the shipping channel near X31 and it was loaded with walleye.

That entire stretch is usually loaded during the summer months. You can do real
well with a jigging spoon too.

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