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Okay, I've got to ask. Last year on Lake St Clair, in Anchor Bay and all over I didn't catch any Walleys. Everything else but... My boat is a Searay without a trolling motor so I can only drift. Can someone tell me what I should be doing under these conditions without a trolling motor to catch Walleys? What type of leader and so on should I be using. Type of crawler harness... Should I try casting without a motor. I have in years past caught a few Walleye but probably by accident. Is there a class anywhere that gives advise on catching Walleye? Thanks
 

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Oh man Fit, you just missed some great seminars put on at Gander Mountain by Lance Valentine covering all the angles on walleye fishing. I mentioned them a while back in another thread. It was a series of six that he is doing of which the first four are done.

He has a series of pamphlets that he put together that explain all of what he covers in the seminars. If you come to the next seminar next Monday in Pontiac at 6:00 you can probably buy them all. Not sure about that but you probably can.

Another possibility, you might try his website, [email protected], to see if you can get some of the info.

I fish for walleye more than bass personally and love it. I have to say that I learned a lot from him that should help me tweek my skills quite a bit.

I am not sure how big your Searay is but you definately need a way to control your boat if you want to fish the rivers which is where most of my success has been. I use an electric trolling motor on the bow of my boat and it is a must. If you just want to fish the lake you can probably just drift but you are at the mercy of the wind in direction and speed. But there is just so much to cover and so many complexities that it would be impossible to even scratch the surface in this thread. If you think that you have some idea of what you are doing and just have some information you need clarified let me know and I would be happy to try to help you out.

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I thought I was the only one. I caught one Walleye by accident drifting the North Channel last season! I gave up going out on the Detroit River because I went out 4 or 5 times for Walleye and didn't get one. I didn't even get bit when I was out casting at night this past fall.
 

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Randy,....We'll go after some 'eyes this spring in the Detroit River when it opens up...the best time will probably be late April...we're going to have a late spring this year I think! I'm not a Walleye pro by any means,..but I can catch 'em down there when the "run" is on,.....it's easy and fun!!! We'll hook up after I get my new boat and go fill the 'wells!! LOL Seeya soon.
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I have to agree with Mac on this one. You don't have to be a walleye pro (I am not) to catch them when they are easy in the spring on the Detroit River.
My favourite (and only) method is to vertical jig something, usually a ball jig with a minnow on it although some plastics work well without live bait. I have used spoons like the jig-a-whopper or that type of spoon with success.
I depend on my trolling motor to keep my line vertical, the straighter the better. If you have trouble seeing your line, use flourescent line on the reel down to a swivel then a clear drop line (1-2 ft) to the jig. It's amazing what you can see happen before you feel it sometimes but this is most important for the vertical factor. This also cuts down on your number of snags.
Good luck in the spring.
 

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That's exactly right Topwater,.....I use a 1/2 or 3/4oz ball jig,....a 4" curly tailed grub (colors vary depending on h2o clarity)
and a lively 3-4" minnow hooked "upside down"...that makes them squirm like crazy trying to "right" themselves...I usually use pink, white, chartreuse and orange jigs......and white or chartreuse grubs....but in all honesty,..I think the squirmin' minnow is the reason for the strikes more often than the color of the jig/grub combo! Just mix and match and play around with different combo's until you connect.......but keeping your line as vertical as possible is deffinetely critical with that type of presentation. It's a riot when your on fish too.....you can get a limit in a matter of minutes!! I love walleye fishin' when it's easy like that,....but I love to bass fish ALL THE TIME!!!..LOL

Good luck..
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The walleye's this year and most other are concentrated in the channels late spring and early summer. Without exact boat control you'll never find them.

For your boat and the way you fish your best bet is Lake Erie. Limits were being caught spring and through the summer within six miles of the shore from Flat Rock to Monroe. Find a pack , drift with a bottom bouncer or Erie Dearie and you'll catch fish.
 

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Thanks for all of the information .... Now, to find a way to fish the river... I wonder if it's too far of a drive from the Salt River? I have gone fishing for perch down to the Grosse Pointe Yacht Club.... My boat is a 21 1/2 foot Searay cuddy 350/260hp...
 

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During the summer when it is nice and sunny and calm in the Bay as well as the Lake go into 7 to 11 feet of water and drop anchor in the middle of the biggest thickest Coonyail Patch you can find and Jig. Minnows Mr Twisters whatever the Walleye hold up in these weed beds all day. Bob
 

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Looks like you are getting some great advice above TPF. All of what has been said is right on the money. The river techniques probably will be your biggest challenge without a trolling motor for controlling your drift to match the current. It is absolutly essential to keep your line vertical when jigging for feel of the bite and to prevent snagging.

I have drifted LSC withe crawler harnesses and have done quite well. I like using a harness with a copper blade and red beads most of the time on a 3-way swivel with a bottom bouncer. This can change depending on weather conditions/sunlight. My most productive spot for this type of presentation has been south of Metro Beach. There is usually a group of boats out there doing just that.

It is also pretty good down by the Delphine Channel or the dumping grounds can produce also.

But I really like the rivers. The Detroit is probably my fovorite. Conventional jigging is used on it but the St Clair takes a presentation all its own durring daylight. Most of the bait shops along the St Clair can tell it how it is done. Ask what you need to "chug" and how to do it. But again, you need an electric trolling motor to control boat drift. You might look into whether you can mount one on the transom of your boat. This would not be optimum but might work. It would have to have some power to be effective on your size boat. Just some thoughts from an amateur who loves walleye fishing.

By the way, Mac is right about the spring on the river. It can be awsome if you know what you are doing and can control you boat effectively. I get worked up just thinking about it. In fact, I think I am going to go paint some jigs. Can't have enough of them.

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Thanks for the invite Mac, maybe in the past I missed the run, story of my life, "shoulda been here yesterday!" I've been able to keep the line vertical but boat control isn't one my strong suits! Let me know when you got time. I only have two more bags of fish in the freezer.
 

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No problem dude,....would love to go get a bunch of 'eye's when the gettin' is good!!..LOL I'll give you a shout! Wait'll you see my new boat,....it's going to be the whoop!!!...Can't wait!!! You going to pop inti BPS sometime this weekend?? I'll be there tonite from 3pm-9pm...then all day fri-sun!! Stop by.....we'll BS for awhile!! Seeya!!
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Mac, Jim, Muskiebobsr thanks for the advice... I can't wait to try out my lines when it warms up... My son has never caught a walleye and I hope that he does this year...Rich
 

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Mac, I do need to get back up to BPS to pick up some of your shirts for my Indiana chic and her kids.

What's this about a new boat??????? Bass boat, deep V???? Details man, details. I think I'll keep the Crestliner for awhile! Hasn't done me wrong yet!

Where you gonna be tonight, lures?, the tank? I'll make sure to stop and say hey!!!
 

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Randy,..I'll be at the XPS booth all weekend...doing rod handles and selling shirts, baits, rods, reels, line, etc..etc...I've got 2 seminars too.....friday at 9:30am and saturday at 9:30am!! I sold my 901 to a dude in Minnesota and I'm getting a Ranger.....I signed with Ranger's Pro Staff this year!!,..I've got a 520DVX ordered with a 225 Opti!! The boat is colored in the 35th anniversary scheme....it's awesome. (see their website if you're interested) It's going to have my "Scales and Tales" logo inlayed in the carpet too....it's the same image as my avatar.....I'm going to be doing a lot with them this year too......traveling to 4 FLW events and fishing in 2 of those 4 as a co-angler. The first one is Beaver Lk., and I'm supposed to pick up my boat while I'm down there if it's ready. Right now it'll be verrryy close......the completion date is April 10th...I'll be down there from the 6th-12th!! Drive home the 13th....ahahaha.....I'm sure it'll be ready though....I was told they're usually done 2-3days before the date!!...I hope so anyway....We'll get out together a couple times this summer!
Seeya this weekend sometime...stop by!!
Mac


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(Click on the 521DVX and you'll see the 35th anniv. color scheme) It's much better in person too!!! LOL
 

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Mac,

The new rig sounds smokin', Do you know who you'll be co-angler with, or do you find that out at the launch? Good Luck with everything! I'll be watching for you on the FLW tour on the T.V.!
 

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I'll get paired with my "Pro" at the pre-tournament meeting the night before the tournament starts. I'm fired up too!!
Will be fishing Beaver in april...and Kentucky in May. During the practice period for Beaver, I'm hookin' up with Scott Dobson,..also from Waterford,....he fishes the Pro side.....took 10th at Okeechobee!!...Would love to get paired with him or one of the other Pro's I know,....have met a lot of them over the past 3 years.....so my odds are good!!! I just hope I get a limit every day,.....would love to finish in the Top 10 for sure,...but 75th and higher all get checks!! So any pay day is a good day! LOL
 

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TPF,

Hey, no problem. Glad I/we could help. Just let us know how you and your son do. I will post how I am doing and you can tell us about how many limits you get too. If you have any more questions just post a thread and you will probably get more advice than you can handle on this site. Isn't that great!!

Jim
 

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Perfect Fit, some good advice was given in here. I'll throw my $.02 as well. You can never get enough.

What I like to do is listen to the Lakeside Tackle hotline to find out where the Walleye are biting. That number is (586)777-7008. I have it on speed dial, that's how often I call it in the Summer
. It's never let me down, Capt. Dan gets some damn good information on there(although he tends to be a bit obsessed with Lake Simcoe). Nevertheless he always has good information. I lake to put the boat perpindicular to the wind direction, shut off the engine, pull the motor out of the water, pop open a cold one, and just drift. Saves gas, saves aggravation, and I almost always boat a Walleye or two. Plus I can sit down and take a load off. That is after all, one of the aspects of fishing.


One last piece of advice, forget about Anchor Bay. Because of it's shallow depth, it tends to be warmer than the main part of the lake. This warmer water is ideal for Musky (or so I've heard), and some Northern Pike to an extent. Myself I have NEVER caught a Walleye in there, and I've tried numerous times at different times of the day, different times of the year throwing ever bait both live and artificial imaginable....and NOTHING! I'm convinced no Walleye live there. Although I could be wrong. All I know is that when I fish south of Metro Beach all the way to 9 mile, I'm usually in the garage filleting Walleye by the end of the day. Take it for what it's worth. Good luck.

Tony
 
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