[Convincor]

Anyone know what was the outcome with the people in the water yesterday? I cought some of the chatter on the radio yesterday with the CG and Sheriff earlier in the day. We went to the launch last night and saw that there were still a ton of vehicles and officers in cluding the dive team at the Sheriff post. I haven't heard what the outcome was.

 

[Sheamus]

QUOTE(Convincor @ Jul 29 2009, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyone know what was the outcome with the people in the water yesterday? I cought some of the chatter on the radio yesterday with the CG and Sheriff earlier in the day. We went to the launch last night and saw that there were still a ton of vehicles and officers in cluding the dive team at the Sheriff post. I haven't heard what the outcome was.

The 57 year old and 13 year old both died.

 

[Big Dog]

2 people dead, 2 survivors.
The 31 y/o man went in for a swim, started having trouble. the 13 and 51 year old men went in to help, they are the two who didn't make it.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story/Two-B...3zfteBY7Rg.cspx

 

[Convincor]

Sorry for this thread. Just read the outcome in the other thread. Didn't see it at first.

Thanks Sheamus.

 

[Float On]

And the 31yo they jumped in to look for is fine.

I hate to say it with the circumstances - but it was stupidity at its finest.

 

[Convincor]

Thanks Big Dog

 

[Convincor]

I knew it couldn't have been good since I saw a coroner vehicle at the Sheriff post.

 

[Chriznat]

Very sad regardless of the circumstances. So preventable.

 

[4_winns_fan]

No one want to jump in the lake for a swim with a life jacket on including me...I dont fault the 31 year old for swimming without a life jacket.

What I dont understand is how it happenend? The article I read said they jumped in to help the guy in trouble and then never resurfaced...Did they get caught in weeds or something? Or is this a case where the guy in trouble ends up pulling the other two down?

 

[Float On]

QUOTE(4_winns_fan @ Jul 29 2009, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No one want to jump in the lake for a swim with a life jacket on including me...I dont fault the 31 year old for swimming without a life jacket.

What I dont understand is how it happenend? The article I read said they jumped in to help the guy in trouble and then never resurfaced...Did they get caught in weeds or something? Or is this a case where the guy in trouble ends up pulling the other two down?

Hackel said in an interview that the 31yo went in for a swim (dont blame him either, but prob not the wisest thing to do) and the others on the boat did not see him for a while so they jumped in to find him. Without vests. Without the boat anchored. Without calling for help instead.

The 31yo turned out to be ok.

 

[No More Mini]

As always one of the first things you should do is STAY WITH THE BOAT! Throw a preserver to the person in the water and if you MUST go in yourself, put a PFD on before doing so.

I feel for the families involved, saw the USCG Helo runnign around and felt real sad when it wasnt. I knew the outcome wouldnt be good.

 

[fitsus]

One of the articles I read said there were 2 life jackets found floating in the water no one using them. I can only spectulate that the 72? year old on board threw them in and she also called 911. Very smart thinking there.

 

[Jack Hodge]

QUOTE(fitsus @ Jul 29 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>One of the articles I read said there were 2 life jackets found floating in the water no one using them. I can only spectulate that the 72? year old on board threw them in and she also called 911. Very smart thinking there.
We were out yesterday and it was windy and choppy, the life preservers probably blew away if the PIW wasn't close enough to grab it right away. Everyone should carry a type V throwable with an attached line. I won't try to sell my product here anymore, but you should look into one of these type Vs.

If you have someone in the water and your close enough to help remember the golden rule. Reach, Throw, Don't go!!

 

[Taxman]

Never jump off the boat without a line attached.
~The boat will float away

If you see a boat about to hit yours....Never jump out of the boat
~People think that jumping in the water 5' away is going to save you...Wrong, jump down and into the boat
Most the people who survive a crash are found ALIVE in the boat.

If your boat is sinking.....Never leave your boat
The survivers are always found hanging on the capsized boat.....not so much just float'n

If your boat is on fire....Then you can jump out

but take a life jacket and stay near your boat

If someone is in trouble grab a line so you can be pulled in or pull yourself in.

Never think you can swim to shore
~Because you can't

.02

 

[Goose]

unless you are trained in life guard rescue techniques, 9 times out of 10, you will be pulled under with the drowning victim, unless that person is very small or unconcious...

a drowning victim will grab instinctively at anything and try to use it to float... even most life guards will not go near a struggling person drowning, they have large floaty things they push towards the struggling person, keeping a distance from them....

 

[Chriznat]

Easy for everybody to sit behind the keyboard and say what shouldve been done.. but..

Be honest with yourself - you know you would not have:

a.) tied a line to yourself and the other end to the boat,
b.) put on your life preserver before jumping in,
c.) called 9-1-1 immediately

In the heat of the moment, your loved one is in the water and not coming up. You'd jump right in and you know it.

Again, aside from all speculation, its a tragedy and a terrible loss.

 

[Taxman]

QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 29 2009, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Easy for everybody to sit behind the keyboard and say what shouldve been done.. but..

Be honest with yourself - you know you would not have:

a.) tied a line to yourself and the other end to the boat,
b.) put on your life preserver before jumping in,
c.) called 9-1-1 immediately

In the heat of the moment, your loved one is in the water and not coming up. You'd jump right in and you know it.

Again, aside from all speculation, its a tragedy and a terrible loss.
I would honestly would have done (a) Maybe not tied it to myself but slipped the mooring loop on my arm

 

[canaller]

I keep a life ring attached to 50' of line right next to the helm seat. I have 50' of 1/2 inch New England braid line next to that neatly coiled. I can't believe how many times I have heaved that line. Spend a few bucks on a good line and learn how to properly throw it.

I also brief passengers on my boat that no one jumps in after anything. With people swimming the life ring is in the water tied to the boat. A sad tragedy but so easily prevented.

 

[Soo Sassy]

When Bill and I came upon the people that were in the water when that bowrider got swamped a few years ago, my first instinct was to jump in because I'm a strong swimmer because hearing the kids crying for help was terrible, but then my brain started to work and I realized that its not what I'm supposed to do. You don't know how you will react in a situation like this. You might know what you're supposed to do, but in desperate times, things happen so fast, sometimes you forget to think of the right thing to do and just do whatever comes to mind first.

 

[Float On]

QUOTE(Chriznat25 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Easy for everybody to sit behind the keyboard and say what shouldve been done.. but..

Be honest with yourself - you know you would not have:

a.) tied a line to yourself and the other end to the boat,
b.) put on your life preserver before jumping in,
c.) called 9-1-1 immediately

In the heat of the moment, your loved one is in the water and not coming up. You'd jump right in and you know it.

Again, aside from all speculation, its a tragedy and a terrible loss.

Through many emergency situations I know I would not have panicked. I would have called the CG on the radio first thing, made sure NOONE jumped in. Made everyone put their pfd's on. Thrown the float.

No way would I have jumped in unless it was less than 6' of water.