What would you do?

QUOTE(islander @ Jul 1 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Let's say the boss came up to you and said over the next 3 years there will be no employee contribution and no increases in your health care. Company will cover all increases other than deductible. We will increase your paid holidays by one day. And your pay will increase no less than 1.5% in year 2 and 3% in year 3. No pay concessions. Pension plan fully funded at current rates.

What would you say????

The union I'm negotiating with said "Not enough!"

I left saying if we called channel 2 and told them there was a private company negotiating no health increases, more days off, and pay raises vs concessions they would probably hang up on me thinking it was a prank!

I would reply, [to employers] "Thank you for having the business sense to know what you can do for your employees and STAY in business".

QUOTE(islander @ Jul 1 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Let's say the boss came up to you and said over the next 3 years there will be no employee contribution and no increases in your health care. Company will cover all increases other than deductible. We will increase your paid holidays by one day. And your pay will increase no less than 1.5% in year 2 and 3% in year 3. No pay concessions. Pension plan fully funded at current rates.

What would you say????

The union I'm negotiating with said "Not enough!"

I left saying if we called channel 2 and told them there was a private company negotiating no health increases, more days off, and pay raises vs concessions they would probably hang up on me thinking it was a prank!
I would boot the Union out, close my doors, open under a new name, and rehire anyone that wanted to work for me under those conditions. LOL

Stodge, that's much better than the average non union shop right now. Let's see, this has been my last year -

Reduction in pay = 15% hourly
Reduction in hours = 30%
Total reduction in average yearly pay (avg of last 5 yrs) = -$40k
Loss of dental insurance
Loss of 401K employer match
Increases in all co-pays, deductibles, and less authorized services for med insurance
All paid vacation days = Revoked till further notice and no payment for the unused from last year
No sick days

and on, and on, and on..........

Quite a few of my friends at other shops are going thru similar experiences.....

So yeah, I think if that deal were in front of me, I would take it!!! Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!!

(and they wonder why they can't find work...... I have a lot of union friends, but I really don't understand the mentality - and I come from a union family!!)

Edit- Just so nobody jumps on me - I am not dogging the union members, I know there are a lot of them on here, and as said, a lot of my friends are union. I guess if I was a union member, I would be demanding more and more too. I just think they have grown into a very different animal than when they were created- not for the better....